Herr-Kuhn said:
How is it that an ME is stated as having higher math credentials than the MET when in many instances they take the same math courses?
Can you post a link to an accredited MET program which includes as much math and physics as a standard ME program? If an MET program includes just as much course work as an ME program, there's no reason to call it an MET program in the first place, its just ME!
My understanding is that
in general, MET programs are assocate's degree programs which are aimed at machinists, technicians, and technical designers/drafters. It's not an insult, I'm telling you what the degree is designed around...
Herr-Kuhn said:
A lot of ME guys do look down on METs...I have seen this. I can understand that some MET programs are garbage...and there are probably some straight ME programs which are also garbage. Again, it all gets back to how you apply yourself in the real world. A degree is just the starting point for a career, it is not the end-all by which a person will be judged as a superior performer.
I'm not looking down on anybody, the two degrees have different applications in parallel fields. The fact is that most companies won't hire a person with an associate's MET degree into an ME position, generally because
most MET programs are lighter in math and physics. If you don't agree with this statement, feel free to post links to MET programs which include the same math and physics classes as an ME program from the same university.
Herr-Kuhn said:
Have you ever given a review or received a review where the supervisor said "we like the fact that you have a degree from XX university, so therefore we are giving you a raise"...VERY unlikely in my opinion.
What is the relevance to this thread? The OP asked what the difference between the two degrees is, and what you're basically saying is "there is no difference" which is not true.
Herr-Kuhn said:
Is one supposed to read the ASME website and assume that you will automatically get a superior candidate with an ME degree vs an MET degree? How brilliant do you think anybody is straight out of a 4-year program anyway?
Superior candidate for what position? Machinist, or R&D design engineer?
Herr-Kuhn said:
That's an example of a real world issue with registered PEs.
... and what does that have to do with the distinction between an ME and MET degree?
Herr-Kuhn said:
What you said was "Well a mechanical engineering technology degree will be a mechanical drafter/technician". A blanket statement like that will not get you anywhere and it's stereotypes like this that give people who completed a good program a bad name coming out of the gate. I've seen plenty of METs in high end design and development positions.
You're still not distinguishing between an ME and MET degree on the fundamental level. Why are they named differently at all? If an MET degree is the same thing as an ME degree, why are they named differently?
Herr-Kuhn said:
3 years out of my MET program I was a Product Line Engineer for a major high-speed packaging manufacturer and I have plenty of clean sheet new designs I could show you to back that up. Additionally, I have three US patents to my name.
Relevance?
Herr-Kuhn said:
I think you need to do some more research before you make such blanket statements about degrees in general.
From what I've seen, you're blanketing all ME's as stuck-up idiots, and all MET's are skilled engineers. All I'm pointing out is the difference in the curriculums and their target careers. I'm not trying to insult anybody.
Herr-Kuhn said:
You might actually see the light in this situation if you do that. For your own benefit, before you stereotype METs as drafters and technicians why not do a little research on the subject with data to back those statements up? Where I went to school you always had to have some data to back up your theory. Or maybe they don't teach you that in your beloved ME programs? ;)
Here, the ME and MET programs at Purdue University. I chose the 4-year MET program to keep things comparable, obviously there isn't much reason to compare an associate's degree to a bachelor's degree.
ME Curriculum: https://engineering.purdue.edu/ME/Academics/Undergraduate/index.html
Math: Differential Calc, Intergral Calc, Multivariate Calc, Linear Algebra, Ord Diff Eq, Partial Diff Eq
Physics: Modern Physics, Statics, Dynamics, Mech. of Matls, Struc & Prop of Matls
Technical: Elec & Optics, Lin. Circuit Anal, Measurements, System Mod. & Anal, Control Systems, Chemistry, Thermo I, Thermo II, Fluid Mechanics, Heat & Mass Transfer, several engineering design theory courses.
MET Curriculum:
http://www.tech.purdue.edu/met/academics/undergraduate/curricula/met_bs.cfm
Math: Precalc, Calc for Technology I, Calc for Technology II
Physics: Materials and Processes I, Materials and Processes II, Applied Statics, Dynamics, General Physics I, General Physics II, Electricity fundamentals, Heat/Power, Fluid/Power, Applied Thermodynamics, Applied Fluid Mechanics.
Technical: Graphics Communications, Computational Analysis Tools in MET, Computer Analysis Tools for MET, Production Design and Specifications, Visual Programming, Controls and Instrumentation for Automation
Also from the Purdue website:
Purdue.edu said:
Graduates of the A.S. program accept jobs as laboratory technicians, engineering aides, plant maintenance staff, layout staff, production assistants and technical sales staff. With additional experience they can be promoted to positions such as industrial supervisors, machine and tool designers, technical buyers, production expediters and cost estimators. They also may elect to enter the B.S. program.
The B.S. program in mechanical engineering technology prepares graduates for positions in manufacturing and other technical industries. Graduates of this program fill a wide variety of industrial positions in manufacturing, production, supervision, plant operations, product development, routine design, technical sales and support, facilities engineering and other related industrial careers.