Measure the transmission curve and wavelengths of colored mineral glass

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The discussion centers around measuring the transmission curve and wavelengths of colored mineral glass, specifically red and blue varieties. Participants explore various instruments and methods for achieving accurate measurements, considering both budget constraints and the required precision for production purposes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the accuracy needed for measuring the optical transmission curve, suggesting that the application of the mineral glass may influence the required precision.
  • Another participant mentions the availability of instruments at different price points, ranging from inexpensive options around $1000 to more expensive NIST traceable spectrometers costing approximately $10,000.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a gemologist's spectrometer, which is relatively inexpensive (around £30) and may provide qualitative insights into the absorption bands of the mineral glass.
  • Participants emphasize the need for clarity on the permissible error for the measurements, indicating that accuracy requirements can vary based on the intended use of the glass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best instruments to use and the level of accuracy required, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the optimal approach for measuring the transmission curve and wavelengths.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not specify the exact applications of the mineral glass, which may affect the accuracy requirements. The discussion also highlights the trade-offs between cost and measurement precision without resolving which instrument is definitively best.

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hi , I want to measure the transmission curve and wavelengths of colored mineral glass , which is the simplest way or which instrument can I use ?
thanks
 
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Why, and how accurately, do you need to measure the optical transmission curve?
 
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Thanks for reply , i have mineral glass red and blue, I need to produce more , for that I need to know transmission curve and wavelength as accurately as possible
 
There are cheap instruments, some US$1000 instruments, and expensive instruments well beyond your budget.
What is the mineral glass used for? That will tell us how accurately you need to make the measurements.
Here is a cheap solution.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/283451821815?
 
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MR v said:
Thanks for reply , i have mineral glass red and blue, I need to produce more , for that I need to know transmission curve and wavelength as accurately as possible
If you want "as accurately as possible" then you need to look for NIST traceable spectrometers. Those are likely to be very expensive (on the order of $10000 USD), but they are as accurate as possible.
 
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MR v said:
I need to know transmission curve and wavelength as accurately as possible
Anything is "possible" and you would need to specify the permissible error for your purpose.

One very cheap instrument would be a gemnologist's spectrometer (actually they are spectroscopes but no matter). I bought one on eBay several years ago for about £30. They are about as big as a pen top and will display the main features of a spectrum. You can easily see the absorption bands from sunlight and compare (qualitatively) the spectra of LEDs and CFL lights. With one, I would expect that you could tell the difference between the reflection / transmision spectra two different pigments which appear to match subjectively.

At £30, they are well worth while trying if they're good enough for gemnologists to distinguish between gems of apparently matching colours. This sounds a similar requirement to your mineral glass problem.
 

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