Measuring earth magnetic field strength

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The discussion revolves around measuring the strength of the Earth's magnetic field, focusing on experimental design, understanding magnetic field concepts, and the use of various tools and formulas. Participants share their challenges and seek clarification on theoretical and practical aspects related to the Earth's magnetic field.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in designing an experiment to measure the Earth's magnetic field strength and questions how to measure angles between geographic south and magnetic north.
  • Another participant mentions the use of a magnetometer as a common device for measuring the Earth's magnetic field and notes recent fluctuations due to solar activity.
  • A participant indicates confusion regarding the representation of magnetic fields and the concept of vectors.
  • There is a discussion about the inclination and declination of the magnetic field, with references to how these vary from the equator to the poles.
  • One participant suggests building a current loop to measure the magnetic field strength and discusses the relationship between current and magnetic field generated by a wire.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on a formula related to the force between parallel wires and its relevance to their task.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various levels of understanding regarding the concepts of magnetic fields and the experimental setup. There is no clear consensus on the best approach to measure the Earth's magnetic field strength, and multiple viewpoints on the interpretation of magnetic field concepts are present.

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Some participants indicate limitations in their understanding of vocabulary and concepts related to magnetic fields, which may affect their ability to engage fully with the discussion.

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I'm somewhere at a suburb near Sydney and I have problems designing an experiment to measure the strength of the Earth magnetic field so that means now I'm close to geographic south and I'm close to magnetic north right? how do I measure the angles between the GS and Mn and what do I have to look for before measuring the strength of the Earth magnetic field... I have power supply, dip needle, a compass, ammeter , resistor and connecting leads and a ruler to measure the distance of what?
 
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And I am a year twelve students also having difficulty to understand Earth magnetic field I mean the lines of the magnetic
 
hi there
welcome to PF
I am also from Sydney :)

A magentometer is the usual device for measuring the Earth's magnetic field.
These can be built are reasonably low cost prob <$50. There's a lot of amateur scientists around the world that use a magnetometer to measure fluctuations in the field strength.
A reasonable fluctuation occurred just within the last 24 hours after a flare on the sun and a CME ( coronal mass ejection). When these CME's hit the Earth's magnetic field it causes the field to compress and then expand again ... its that that the magnetometer picks up

do a google search on fluxgate magnetometer
there's many links to info and circuits etc :)

Dave
 
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Sorry daven the magnetometer is bow provided to measure the Earth's magnetic field strength And I don't really understand the figure shown in 56785... I have learned about magnetic field but I couldn't understand much of the vocab because I'm my English level is not that good... I hope I have not offended u mate
 
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Do you understand what vectors are, and how we represent the magnetic field?
 
I understand what vectors are but I do not how to represent in magnetic field I got a bit confuse at that point
 
Magnetic field is vector field, but is best represented as lines of force. At every point the magnetic field is tangential vector to the line et that point. You must check on the internet what those look like for the earth, it's easy to find. Then it shouldn't be difficult to visualise why is inclination in your book 0 degrees (parallel) at equator and why it is perpendicular to the pole. You should at that point have some ideas how to solve your problem.
 
xAxis, that's not 0 degree I think it represents something else but I just couldn't figure it out what it is
 
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"It varies from 0 degrees at the equator to 90 degrees at the pole".
This is citation from your book. Have you checked the picture of the magnetic force field of the earth? Or of the bar magnet as they are similar?
 
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I think the goal from the text is to have you build a current loop and introduce a known current into it. If you know the size of the loop, the number of turns, and how much current is running through it, you can determine it's magnetic field strength in the center. The idea then is to make a loop, place the compass in the middle, and apply a current so that the magnetic field in the loop just cancels the Earth's magnetic field.
 
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xAxis that is why I don't understand... Maybe I will check with my classmate today I know the inclination and declination of my town now but I have no idea putting the vectors together. What I mean is that what do I have to find out first before looking for the value for Earth magnetic field
 
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Ryoko said:
I think the goal from the text is to have you build a current loop and introduce a known current into it. If you know the size of the loop, the number of turns, and how much current is running through it, you can determine it's magnetic field strength in the center. The idea then is to make a loop, place the compass in the middle, and apply a current so that the magnetic field in the loop just cancels the Earth's magnetic field.

What formula do I have to know for this... My teacher told me that I have to make a comparison of F/L=I1I2/d (Mo/2pi) I have totally lost what he really wants here I show u second page of that paper and the formula
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He wants you to know the relation between the current and the magnetic field around the wire generated by it. You have to understand it in order to do your task, as well as the shape of the magnetic field of the earth.
That formula is the force per unit length between to parallel wires when there is a current in them.
 
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xAxis said:
He wants you to know the relation between the current and the magnetic field around the wire generated by it. You have to understand it in order to do your task, as well as the shape of the magnetic field of the earth.
That formula is the force per unit length between to parallel wires when there is a current in them.

Okay xAxis I'll try to work it out... I hope I can understand what I want to find as well thanks agn axis for having patience
 

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