# Measuring the emissivity of a surface

1. Jun 2, 2014

### HIGHLYTOXIC

Hi Fellas,

Need your help to solve a practical problem I've been facing.

I run a company that makes products for foundries. Recently, we started work on developing a high temperature, high emissivity ceramic coating to paint the inside walls of a furnace. The motive behind the particular product was twofold - to protect the walls from damage, make sure the furnace life is extended; and since the emissivity of traditional firebricks is less than 0.5, we wanted to make a coating that will have an emissivity of > 0.8 to help cut fuel costs & decrease some of the heat losses by locking in the heat.

Now, the problem is I've not been able to figure out the best (& cost effective set up) to calculate the emissivity of the coated/uncoated surface. Clients do not want to first paint their furnaces & then see the fuel savings; they want to know the actual emissivities of the uncoated/coated surfaces & will not invest before that.

What will be the best way to do this?

2. Jun 2, 2014

### TechFan

Hi:
Very interesting and practical project.
Since the main goal of calculating emissivity in this case will be to show your customers how much they can save in fuel with your coating, perhaps you can setup a test calculating the fuel savings the coating introduces and maybe these results, since they are related mainly to the difference in emissivity, may help you calculate the relationship between coated and uncoated furnaces regarding emissivity. In other words, the energy consumption analysis may help you find out some interesting relationships and probably present your point to your customers.
Of course, these experiments need to be run several times in both cases (without and with your coating) to average, calculate standard deviations, etc.
I don't know if doing this will be non expensive though. It all depends on how much you want to expend on this.
Hope it helps you.

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3. Jun 2, 2014

### TechFan

Another advantage of a setup like this will be that you will be able to repeat the experiment every time you perform improvements to your coating by simply replacing the inner layer of breaks of the furnace with fresh ones (non-coated), keeping track of your improvements, something you will try to do, I guess.

4. Jun 2, 2014

### HIGHLYTOXIC

Hi Techfan,

I had thought about this and no doubt this is one of the more practical ways to do it - link the coated tiles/bricks to energy saved. I had thought about it this way - build a small chamber with run of the mill firebricks (most common), put a container with water in it or put a temperature probe inside, then fire the burner. I can either wait for the water to start boiling or measure the time taken for the probe to reach a particular temperature. Then repeat the experiment with similar but coated bricks & see the difference in T(coated) - T(uncoated) as well as Fuel(uncoated) - Fuel(coated).

This way I don't need to measure the emissivity of the surface & I come directly to the point.

Thing is, however, such an experiment takes time & set up to do it everytime a client asks me to. I can video tape it & document the results and present it to the client but you know how cynical buyers are, they want quantitative data points before they buy an expensive product (and the coating is fairly expensive).

I go to the client's site and paint an area of 2 ft x 2 ft of the furnace inside wall bang in the middle of the wall. So if the furnace sidewall is 10ft x 12 ft, I draw a 2x2 ft square in the center of the wall. Then, I paint it with my coating.

There could be multiple datapoints here. A 2by2 square will not make much of a difference in the fuel consumption which could be noticeable. I could, however, take the readings of the wall from the outside.

So, the area which has been coated is on the inside of the wall, if I measure the temperature of the same area but on the outside of the wall, it's supposed to be lower than it was when the area was uncoated, right? Because more heat is being sent back in than before?

The only problem is that I can't stop conduction from the uncoated area inside the wall to ALL of the outside wall area, which could fudge up the figures possibly.

Is there something I can do with an optical/laser pyrometer here?

One more thing, the coating I am developing is slightly off-white or cream in color. I can't find a black color pigment that will last upto 1800 Celsius. How much am I losing by not making the coating completely black?

5. Jun 2, 2014

### TechFan

Hi:
As mentioned, I know nothing about the details of the process...;but anyways the setup mentioned, using electricity instead of regular fuel, will allow you to quantify things more precisely in terms of energy which you will be able to translate into fuel consumption later on depending on the energy content of the fuel you use for firing the furnace. A data logger is a must for this experiment as you need to collect data to show your customers as proof of energy efficiency increase. Most likely, those are the numbers they will like to see. I don't think you have to repeat the experiment over and over to each of them to prove your point.
Once you do it for one type of coating, if the formula remains the same and you are expressing the results as percentage, I believe the scale of the furnace does not matter too much. To do your testing I would recommend to repeat it at different temps so you can find out if your coating emissivity is temp dependent??.
You can talk to one of your customers and perform the experiment in their furnace. There are means for that as you mentioned using an infrared pyrometer and measuring the fuel consumption. That way you will also have data from a real furnace.
Unfortunately, this kind of measurements aren't easy to do neither cheap and require time as you mentioned. The advantage is that once you have your system setup you can perform those tests and many others as you like. Since this is a repetitive process there are automated systems that can be implemented and you don't have to be controlling or watching it closely assuming they are done safely.
The coating color and emissivity relationship could be find out by experimenting and collecting data as well. Once you have data its easy to correlate and analyze things.
Since your coating is expensive and you will have real data to demonstrate its effectiveness to your customers, maybe you can get your initial investment back pretty fast. Something like this is not probably astronomically costly or anything like that. Find out, perhaps is something you can afford and it will be a permanent solution for your problem which you can use over and over for testing your improvements in color, etc.
Good luck