Measuring the Speed of Light (Foucault Method)

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Discussion Overview

This discussion revolves around an experiment measuring the speed of light using the Foucault Method, which involves reflecting a laser beam off a rotating mirror. Participants examine the methodology, data presentation, and statistical analysis of the results, including the reported speed of light and associated uncertainties.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports a mean speed of light calculated as (2.9972 ± 0.0139) x 108 m/s and suggests this is derived from the Foucault Method.
  • Another participant questions the presentation of uncertainty in measurements, suggesting a more precise format for reporting values and expressing skepticism about the relationship between calculated speed and error in Table 3.
  • A different participant asserts that the uncertainties in the measurements may have been underestimated significantly, indicating a potential error in the statistical analysis.
  • Concerns are raised about the statistical error being higher than the claimed uncertainty, with a participant emphasizing the importance of verifying statistical variation against reported errors.
  • One participant provides a visual representation of the data, highlighting discrepancies between the claimed error and the actual distribution of data points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy of the reported uncertainties and the statistical analysis of the data. There is no consensus on the validity of the reported speed of light or the methods used to calculate it.

Contextual Notes

Participants note issues related to significant figures and the presentation of data, as well as the potential impact of selective data inclusion on the results. These points remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Abstract

In this experiment, a beam of light from a laser was reflected off of a rotating mirror to a fixed mirror, and then reflected back to the rotating mirror. The returning light was focused to a point image in a microscope. Due to the continued rotation of the mirror while the light was in transit from the rotating mirror, to the fixed mirror, and back, the beam was reflected into the microscope at an altered angle, resulting in a displacement of the point image. Measurement of this displacement, along with distance parameters from our setup, known as the Foucault Method, allows for the speed of the light to be calculated. The mean speed of light calculated from this experiment was (2.9972 ± 0.0139) x 108 m/s.

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Hi, I did not check the details but
A = 0.26 m ± 0.0005 m
B = 0.49 m ± 0.0005 m
D = 11.8237 m ± 0.0500 m
looks weird to me. I'd write A=(0.2600 ± 0.0005) m, etc.
In the table
2.838152
± 0.039977
I'd write 2.84 ± 0.04, etc.
Also in table 3 I get suspicious because the lesser is the calculated c value, the lesser the error you get. Using my intuition the opposite should happen.
Maybe I was not taught the right way though and keep in mind that I'm just an undergraduate student.
 
I am not sure what your question is. Looking at the attached document, though, and I conclude that you have underestimated your uncertainties by a rather large factor: perhaps two or three.

Also, Table 3 has a serious problem with significant figures.
 
ltetor said:
The mean speed of light calculated from this experiment was (2.9972 ± 0.0139) x 108 m/s.
If that is your estimate of the error, how do you explains statistical error being (2.9972 ± 0.1071) x 108 m/s?

You should always check the statistical error on your data. It should never be higher than the error you claim. You have made a mistake somewhere by a whole order of magnitude. It doesn't affect your answer, but it affects how believable your answer is. If you claim an error of less than 0.5%, you need to show statistical variation of less than 0.5%. It's not. The fact that you didn't get 3.1 for an answer is entirely down to luck. Unless it's not even that. Did you keep all of the data points you took, or only the ten you liked?


Just to illustrate this a little better I've attached a plot of your data. Red dots are the data from the table. Pale blue band is the probability distribution according to 2.9972 ± 0.0139 you claim, with solid blue dashes marking off the area of the band that should contain 90% of your data points according to that error. Doesn't look good, for your claim, does it?
 

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