Mechanical energy lost when child jumps onto merry-go-round

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The discussion centers on calculating the mechanical energy lost to friction when a child jumps onto a stationary merry-go-round, utilizing the principle of conservation of momentum. The correct approach involves determining the final angular speed of the system and calculating the change in kinetic energy. Key formulas include the rotational kinetic energy expression, which incorporates the moment of inertia of the merry-go-round. The participants emphasize the importance of accurately accounting for both the child's and the merry-go-round's kinetic energies in the calculations.

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I have a basic problem where a child jumps tangentially onto the outer edge of a stationary merry-go-round, and you have to use conservation of momentum to find the final angular speed of the merry-go-round.

But the next part of the question asks "how much mechanical energy was lost to friction as the child jumped onto the merry-go-round?"

I tried using change in kinetic energy -- 1/2(m*r(omega)) - 1/2(mv2) = 0 but didn't get the right answer. I really can't think of how else I would find this, because the only thing that's changing is the kinetic energy. I would really appreciate it if somebody could help me out with this
 
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You have the right idea. Make sure you include all the final kinetic energy.
 
TSny said:
You have the right idea. Make sure you include all the final kinetic energy.

1/2 * (mass of child + mass of merry-go-round) * (r*omega)2 - 1/2mv2 = 0

Does this look better? I'm still not getting the right answer but it's much closer...maybe I messed up the calculation or the answer is wrong...but is this correct?
 
jybe said:
1/2 * (mass of child + mass of merry-go-round) * (r*omega)2 - 1/2mv2 = 0

Does this look better? I'm still not getting the right answer but it's much closer...maybe I messed up the calculation or the answer is wrong...but is this correct?
You are not using the correct expression for the rotational KE of the merry-go-round. It will involve the concept of "moment of inertia" (sometimes called "rotational inertia").
 

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