Mechanical principles: vehicle acceleration calculations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around vehicle acceleration calculations, focusing on understanding the concepts of velocity and acceleration, as well as applying relevant equations to solve problems related to constant acceleration. Participants are addressing a specific assignment that involves graph interpretation and calculations based on given data.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the meaning of velocity and acceleration, suggesting that understanding these concepts is crucial for solving the assignment.
  • Several participants provide definitions for velocity and acceleration, indicating that velocity is the distance traveled per unit of time and acceleration is the change in velocity per unit of time.
  • There is a suggestion to break down the problem into sections to tackle different phases of acceleration, as the acceleration may vary in each phase.
  • Some participants mention the need for specific formulas for calculating distance under constant acceleration, including the use of average speed.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of rounded values in calculations, with a recommendation to maintain significant figures to avoid errors in later calculations.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the correct figures to use in calculations and seek clarification on the application of formulas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of velocity and acceleration, as well as the need for careful calculations. However, there is no consensus on the specific figures to use in calculations or the best approach to tackle the assignment, indicating ongoing uncertainty and differing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the formulas being used apply to constant acceleration, but the acceleration may differ in various phases of the problem. There is also mention of the SUVAT equations, which may be relevant but are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Homework Statement
Hi I am completely stuck on this part of my work, I’ve got the time graph started but am unsure what equations and how to work it out can some please help
Relevant Equations
V=U+AT
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Good start. I see you labelled your horizontal axis "t" . What is the vertical axis? (might or might not help later) You have left off the acceleration, which again might or might not help, but you have put all the other info on the graph, so might as well.

Now you need the acceleration (presumably a1, since they tell you a3 and implicitly a2)
It might or might not help to know what acceleration means?
Or you can just use a formula. In that case you'd need to find one that uses the info you have. The one you quote is ok.

Then the time for the deceleration. Exactly the same comments apply.

Then the total distance travelled. Best tackled in sections t1, t2, t3.
Here you will need to understand what velocity means, or use a different formula.
An easy start is the section t2. And that might give you a hint for the other sections.
 
STM said:
I am totally lost on this assignment as I missed a few weeks at college for personal reasons and I am really lost on this one as I didn’t cover these topics
So first, tell me what you understand by
velocity ?
acceleration?

Also, do you know any other equations for constant acceleration questions?
Have you solved any problems like this, just using the graph?
 
So velocity is how much distance you travel per unit of time, ##v=\frac {distance \, travelled}{time \, taken}##

Acceleration is how much the velocity changes per unit of time, ##a=\frac {change\, of\, velocity}{time\, taken}##

Using that relationship;

For part (i), you know; the time taken, the velocity at the start, the velocity at the end, so you can calculate the change in velocity in the given time and then the acceleration.

For (ii) you know the acceleration, you know the velocity at the start and at the end, so you can calculate the change in velocity and the time it took.
 
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Merlin3189 said:
So velocity is how much distance you travel per unit of time, ##v=\frac {distance \, travelled}{time \, taken}##

Acceleration is how much the velocity changes per unit of time, ##a=\frac {change\, of\, velocity}{time\, taken}##

Using that relationship;

For part (i), you know; the time taken, the velocity at the start, the velocity at the end, so you can calculate the change in velocity in the given time and then the acceleration.

For (ii) you know the acceleration, you know the velocity at the start and at the end, so you can calculate the change in velocity and the time it took.
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(i) & (ii) fine.

For (iii) you need to tackle it in three sections. The formulae you are using apply to constant acceleration. But the acceleration is different in each phase.

Now, I don't know what the expressionyou quote here is supposed to do.
##\frac 1 2 a t## would give you half the change in speed over time t with acceleration a

You need to find distance.
You know all the speeds and times, so that is the sort of formula you want:
distance = function of (speeds , time)

For constant speed, distance = speed x time
But when speed is changing linearly (which is what happens when acceleration is constant) you can say
distance = (average speed) x time

I think you also need to learn (and understand) what are known as the SUVAT equations.
 
Merlin3189 said:
(i) & (ii) fine.

For (iii) you need to tackle it in three sections. The formulae you are using apply to constant acceleration. But the acceleration is different in each phase.

Now, I don't know what the expressionyou quote here is supposed to do.
##\frac 1 2 a t## would give you half the change in speed over time t with acceleration a

You need to find distance.
You know all the speeds and times, so that is the sort of formula you want:
distance = function of (speeds , time)

For constant speed, distance = speed x time
But when speed is changing linearly (which is what happens when acceleration is constant) you can say
distance = (average speed) x time

I think you also need to learn (and understand) what are known as the SUVAT equations.
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On part b, I think I have the formula correct, but am I little in sure on the correct figures to put in

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STM said:
On part b, I think I have the formula correct, but am I little in sure on the correct figures to put in

Edit ( does this look correct)

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I'm finding this a bit difficult, with the question and data in one post, then your solution in a separate one.
Also a few words would help.

I'll put the update to your previous Q, while I print out your new posts so that I can see it all in a logical sequence.
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Yes . These answers are all near enough right.
 
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Merlin3189 said:
Yes . These answers are all near enough right.

Thank you for taking the time to check over my work
 
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You should note two points:

When you work out an early result, like the acceleration, you should record it to more significant figures and use that value in later calculations. If you use rounded off values in later calculations, the rounding may get multiplied and cause significant error.

Units for acceleration are metres per (second squared) ## \frac {m}{s^2} \, \text{ or } \, m/s^2##
not m/s which is speed or velocity.
 
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Merlin3189 said:
You should note two points:

When you work out an early result, like the acceleration, you should record it to more significant figures and use that value in later calculations. If you use rounded off values in later calculations, the rounding may get multiplied and cause significant error.

Units for acceleration are metres per (second squared) ## \frac {m}{s^2} \, \text{ or } \, m/s^2##
not m/s which is speed or velocity.
Thank you
 

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