Mechanics of a ball sliding and rolling

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on deriving expressions related to a ball rolling up a ramp, starting from its initial kinetic energy and transitioning to potential energy. The first part is solved by equating initial kinetic energy to potential energy, resulting in an expression for angular velocity at the ramp's base: ω² = (5gh/r²). The second part involves calculating the time taken for the ball to stop sliding before rolling, with friction assumed to be μmg. The user struggles with integrating equations of motion and conservation of energy, needing the initial velocity to proceed. The conversation emphasizes the importance of considering angular acceleration in the analysis.
ASTaiyeb
Messages
1
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A ball of radius r and mass m starts rolling without slipping up a ramp inclined at an angle φ to the horizontal and reaches a maximum height h. Derive an expression for the angular velocity ω that the ball has at the base of the ramp. [Rolling friction may be ignored in this question.]
The ball is initially launched without rotation towards the ramp along a horizontal surface with a constant coefficient of sliding friction μ. The ball slides along the surface, begins to roll and stops slipping before it reaches the ramp. Find an expression for the time ts taken for it to stop sliding in terms of h, g and μ.
By considering the initial velocity v0 and the resistance felt by the ball before it begins to roll, derive an expression relating its initial and final energies in terms of the sliding distance x.


Homework Equations


Kinetic energy of purely rolling body =
<br /> \frac{\omega^2 I}{2}} <br />


MOI of a solid sphere =
<br /> \frac{2 M r^2}{5} <br />


The Attempt at a Solution



So I have solved the first part of the question by equating the inital kinetic energy to the final potential energy:
\frac{\omega^2}{2} = m g h

\omega^2 = \frac{5 g h}{r^2}

The second part is where i am having difficulty. Firstly I assume the force due to friction is \mu m g. From here i have tried two routes, setting up the equation of motion and integrating and using conservation of energy, both of which leave me with the problem of needing to know the initial projected velocity to work out the time.

EOM : m\ddot{x} = - \mu m g
v - v0 = - \mu g t

by energy: \frac{m v_0^2}{2} = \frac{\omega^2 I}{2} + \mu g s where s is the distance traveled and is given by the ball before the ramp and can be worked out by the suvat equations.

I am at a lost about how to approach this, please give me some hint as to which direction i go with it. Thank you for any help. Btw this is my first time posting so i apologize if it isn't set out correctly.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
ASTaiyeb said:
So I have solved the first part of the question by equating the inital kinetic energy to the final potential energy:
\frac{\omega^2}{2} = m g h

\omega^2 = \frac{5 g h}{r^2}
The ball translates as well as rotates.

The second part is where i am having difficulty. Firstly I assume the force due to friction is \mu m g. From here i have tried two routes, setting up the equation of motion and integrating and using conservation of energy, both of which leave me with the problem of needing to know the initial projected velocity to work out the time.
Consider the angular acceleration.
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top