Mechanics of solids question from my mid semester exam

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving a triangular dam made of concrete, focusing on calculating the stresses at specific points on the foundation due to the weight of the dam and the water it holds. The scope includes theoretical and mathematical reasoning related to structural mechanics and stress analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem and expresses uncertainty about how to approach the calculations, mentioning the need to convert weights into forces.
  • Another participant suggests using the integral of pressure to find the force from the water acting on the dam.
  • A different participant proposes considering a specific section of the dam and applying the equation for combined axial and bending stresses.
  • One participant shares their calculations for the weights of concrete and water, including the use of pressure and centroid locations, but expresses confusion about certain aspects of their calculations.
  • Another participant confirms the calculations and clarifies the reasoning behind using a factor of 0.5 for the average pressure from the triangular pressure distribution of the water.
  • One participant acknowledges confusion regarding the shape of the pressure distribution and thanks another for the clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on all aspects of the calculations, as some express confusion and seek clarification on specific points. There are differing interpretations of how to apply certain principles, particularly regarding the pressure distribution and the calculations of forces.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on assumptions about the geometry and properties of the materials involved. There are unresolved questions regarding the application of certain equations and the interpretation of the pressure distribution.

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Homework Statement


A small dam of triangular shape as shown is made from concrete. Find the stresses on the foundation at A and B. Assume concrete and water weighs 25kN/m^3 and 10kN/m^3
(All dimensions in the attached picture are in metres)
Q.JPG


Homework Equations


sigma = force/cross sectional area
bending stress = M.y/I (I'm thinking we might need to use this)
centroid of triangle is a 1/3 from the high side

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty much all over the place as I have no direction. So pretty much all that I've jotted down as just been ideas that lead nowhere.

I labeled the top of the dam as C

Area ABC = 6m^2
W (distributed loading for concrete) = 25 x 6 = 150kN/m

One idea I was told was to find the bending stress at point A and B, take I to be value of the dam, find the Max M of the dam and the value of centroids to be 1m for point B and 2m for point A.

I'm not too sure if my FBD is correct because I think it may be a fixed support but this is what my friend thinks it will look like. See below.

FBD.JPG


I just need the right direction or the right idea. I'm thinking that I have to try and convert those weights into a force, just not sure how to work out the force for the water.
 
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The force from the water per m is:
The integral of the pressure due to the water (from 0 to h)
 
Consider a 1 m length of wall (perpendicular to the page). Call it, say AA'BB'. The section you need to consider stresses on is that plan section AA'BB'. Then apply the equation for combined axial and bending stresses N/A +- M/Z

The Ma in your diagram. What value do you think it has?
 
Ok well I know it has been a while but we just had a tutorial on this topic and did a similar question so here's my attempt.

Here is the question
Question.JPG

http://yfrog.com/0fquestionzfj

Wc = weight of concrete
Ww = Weight of water
Pc = force of concrete
Pw = force of water
Fw = stress of water (i think)

Wc = 25kN/m^3

Density of water = 1000kg/m^3
Ww = 1000x9.81
= 9.81kN/m^3

Fw = 9.81 x 3.3 = 32.373 kN/m^2

Then since its a triangle, Pc acts 1/3 from the high side of 2.16m and assuming 1m wall perpendicular to the page.

Pc = 0.5*2.16*3.6*1*25 = 97.2 kN
Pw = 0.5*32.373*3.3*1 = 53.415 kN (in this line I was a bit confused as to why its you multiply it by 0.5)

Then consider cross section of the base where it looks like this
CSA.JPG


using Z = I/c

Z = (1/12*1*2.16^3)/1.08
= 0.7776m^3

SigmaA = -97.2/2.16 + 97.2*0.36/0.7776 - 53.415*1.1/0.7776
SigmaA = -75.56 kN/m^2

Similarly for SigmaB

SigmaB = -14.44 kN/m^2

I think the only value that I'm not sure about is my Fw/Pw. But how does that look?
 
This looks ok to me. In your comment "(in this line I was a bit confused as to why its you multiply it by 0.5)" the pressure distribution from the water is triangular with the maximum 32,373 at the bottom. So the factor of 0.5 is taking the AVERAGE pressure.
 
Oh ok, I kept confusing myself with it being a triangle or just being a rectangle. Thanks for the clarification.
 

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