Mechanics problem. Please clear my doubts regarding forces.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted by the tabletop on an incline with a mass sliding on it. The initial assumption that the force is simply (M+m)g is questioned, as the normal force and the incline's equilibrium must also be considered. Key points include the need to account for the normal force acting on the mass m and the horizontal component of the normal reaction. A free body diagram is suggested for clarity in resolving forces. The final derived equation for the tabletop force is confirmed to align with expected values when the incline angle is zero.
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Homework Statement


In the flgure below, the incline has mass M and is fastened to the stationary horizontal tabletop. The block of mass m is placed near the bottom of the incline and is released with a quick push that sets it sliding upward. It stops near the top of the incline, as shown in the flgure, and then slides down again, always without friction. Find the force that the tabletop exerts on the incline throughout this motion.

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My answer is (M+m)g since the resultant downward force should be the sum of the weight of incline plane and the weight of the mass. But, it looks too simple to be correct.
Please clear my doubts.
1)Although there is a normal force of magnitude mg*cos(theta) that will eventually balance the weight of the mass m since the mass is not moving downward o upward.
2)The initial push on the mass m is not necessary to be considered in the calculation because the force supplied is not constant and so the only force acting on mass m which parallel to the incline is mg*sin(theta).
3)Throughout the motion of mass, only two force were involved. The weight of mass m and the normal force of incline exerted on the mass.
 
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You are neglecting the horizontal component of the normal reaction.
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1)Although there is a normal force of magnitude mg*cos(theta) that will eventually balance the weight
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The normal force N is equal to mgCosθ. I don’t quite understand what you mean by saying that it will eventually balance the weight.

The inclined wedge is in equilibrium due to three forces –the reaction R due to the tabletop, its own weight Mg, and the normal reaction N at the point of location of mass m. You know N in terms of m and θ. Draw a free body diagram and give it another try now. Resolve all the forces along the horizontal and vertical directions.

(Hint: R will not be in the vertical direction.)
 
This is my free body diagram for mass m.
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/tanzl/freebodydiagram1.jpg
Fnormal = -Fg cos(theta)


This is my free body diagram for incline plane.
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/tanzl/freebodydiagram2.jpg
I let Fx and Fy be the resolved vector of Ftable.
Fx=-Fg cos(theta) sin(theta) Fy=W-Fg [cos(theta)]^2
|Ftable^2|=|Fx|^2+|Fy|^2
By solving the equation, it yields

Ftable = g * sqrt {m^2 * [cos(theta)]^2 + M^2 + 2Mm [cos(theta)]^2}
 
Right. As a check, note that when θ=0, the reaction is simply (m+M)g, as is to be expected.
 
Thank you so much.
 
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