Meson particles emitted from neutrons and protons

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The discussion revolves around the emission of meson particles from neutrons and protons within the nucleus, exploring the nature of these particles and their interactions. It touches on concepts from particle physics, including the role of virtual particles and the interactions mediated by electromagnetic fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that neutrons and protons are not composed of mesons, questioning how they can emit mesons within the nucleus.
  • Others propose that the residual strong interaction can be modeled as the exchange of virtual mesons, which are not real particles.
  • A participant draws an analogy between the interaction of electrons and protons via photons and the emission of mesons, suggesting that this approach may be misleading.
  • There is a request for clarification on how electrons and protons interact via photons, indicating a desire for a deeper understanding of quantum electrodynamics (QED).
  • One participant provides a simplified view of electromagnetic waves and their particle description, discussing the electrostatic and magnetostatic fields associated with protons and electrons.
  • The notion of "virtual particles" is mentioned as a way to describe fields in a manner analogous to electromagnetic waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of meson emission and the validity of analogies drawn with photon interactions. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific interpretations of particle interactions and the definitions of virtual particles, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of fields and particles that are not fully elaborated.

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Neutron and proton are themselves not composed of mesons, then how do they emit these particles inside the nucleus?
 
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The residual strong interaction can be modeled as exchange of virtual mesons. They are not real.

Apart from that: Protons, neutrons and mesons are all made out of quarks, and quarks can also be produced in quark/antiquark pairs.
 
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Bikash Kumar Das said:
Neutron and proton are themselves not composed of mesons, then how do they emit these particles inside the nucleus?
this is a very dangerous way to approach the effect... electrons or protons are not composed of photons, but they do interact via them in an atom...
 
ChrisVer said:
this is a very dangerous way to approach the effect... electrons or protons are not composed of photons, but they do interact via them in an atom...

How electrons & protons interact via photon can you please explain
 
Bikash Kumar Das said:
How electrons & protons interact via photon can you please explain
by QED... I can't write a book.
 
Okay
 
Bikash Kumar Das said:
How electrons & protons interact via photon can you please explain

A simple view:
Electromagnetic wave is something you can define as measured at every time and place. Strength and direction of electric and magnetic field.
Yet it is also described as a flux of particles - "real photons".
A proton and an electron are accompanied by electrostatic field. You can measure the electrostatic field (and magnetostatic field) at any place around the proton.
Yet proton´s electrostatic field is not carrying away energy the way electromagnetic waves do.
The notion of "virtual particles" is describing electrostatic and magnetostatic fields as consisting of "particles" the way electromagnetic waves do.
 
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snorkack said:
A simple view:
Electromagnetic wave is something you can define as measured at every time and place. Strength and direction of electric and magnetic field.
Yet it is also described as a flux of particles - "real photons".
A proton and an electron are accompanied by electrostatic field. You can measure the electrostatic field (and magnetostatic field) at any place around the proton.
Yet proton´s electrostatic field is not carrying away energy the way electromagnetic waves do.
The notion of "virtual particles" is describing electrostatic and magnetostatic fields as consisting of "particles" the way electromagnetic waves do.
Thank you
 

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