Messed up classical mechanics problem:

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When a passenger walks to the front of an accelerating bus, they feel as if they are working against a fictitious force, akin to gaining potential energy. However, this energy is actually kinetic energy gained from their own effort to keep up with the bus's acceleration. Once the bus reaches a constant speed, the passenger no longer feels this force, as there is no acceleration acting on them. The work done while walking does not go to waste; it contributes to the passenger's kinetic energy, and when they sit down, they transfer momentum back to the bus. Ultimately, the energy expended in walking is not lost but is transformed into kinetic energy, demonstrating the complexities of motion in an accelerating frame.
  • #31
In Curl's initial statement, there is no change in potenial energy (gravitational or otherwise). The work done by Curl while walking to the front of the bus while it is accelerating is increasing his kinetic energy.
If he were sitting in his seat during the acceleration (the easier way), the force exerted by his seat back acting through the distance the bus accelerated would do the work necessary to increase Curl's kinetic energy.
 
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Curl said:
This is really simple but I can't figure it out. I was on a bus when I thought of this:

Say I'm sitting in the back of a bus which is traveling on a flat surface, and accelerating with a constant acceleration (forward). Now I get up from my seat in the back and make my way to the front of the bus and take a seat at the front. Shortly after I sit down, the bus stops accelerating and is cruising at constant speed.
When I was walking (say at constant rate relative to the floor of the bus) I felt like I was doing work against a "fictitious" gravity force, so it felt like I gained some "potential" energy. Now that the bus is not accelerating anymore, it seems like that potential is gone and some energy is lost. Where did it go?
Curl, how fast do you estimate the bus' instantaneous velocity was when you started? How much was it when you sat down again, and how many seconds elapsed in between?
 

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