Method of Frobenius and indicial equations

  • Thread starter Thread starter BrettJimison
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Frobenius Method
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on solving a differential equation using the Frobenius method, specifically focusing on the indicial equation C1(2r-1)(r-1)+C2x(r)(2r+1)=0. The user seeks to determine the roots of this equation, given that C1 and C2 are arbitrary constants. After some analysis, the user concludes that the roots are r=1±sqrt(5), resolving their initial confusion regarding the presence of two constants and their impact on the solution process.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the Frobenius method for solving differential equations
  • Familiarity with indicial equations and their significance
  • Knowledge of complex numbers and their roots
  • Ability to manipulate and combine power series
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation and application of the Frobenius method in detail
  • Explore examples of indicial equations in various differential equations
  • Learn about the implications of arbitrary constants in differential equations
  • Investigate the role of complex roots in the context of differential equations
USEFUL FOR

Mathematics students, particularly those studying differential equations, educators teaching advanced calculus, and researchers exploring series solutions to differential equations.

BrettJimison
Messages
81
Reaction score
5

Homework Statement


Hello all,

I have a quick question,
I'm solving a d.e using the Frobenius method and I have the indicial equation:

C1(2r-1)(r-1)+C2x(r)(2r+1)=0

Where c1 and c2 are arbitrary constants not equal to zero.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


My question is, what are the roots? Previously I had only one constant and I would just leave it out since it's not equal to zero. Know that I have 2 constants can I just get rid of both of them? I need to solve for the r that makes the above statement true. Any help? Thanks!
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
My confusion is this: the c1 and c2 are not necessarily equal to each other, so I can't just factor them out. Before I had indicial eqns of the form c1(r)(r-2)=0 or something similar and it's easy to see the roots are 0 and 2. Now I have two terms tied up with two different constants...
 
Where did "C1" and "C2" come from originally? What is the differential equation you are trying to solve?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Where did "C1" and "C2" come from originally? What is the differential equation you are trying to solve?
The original equation is: 2x^2y''-xy'+(x^2+1)y=0

It's kind of a bear to solve. Basically after a bunch of work plugging in the y and its derivatives I need to combine two sums. One starts at x^0 and the other starts at x^2 so I have to pick off two terms from the first sum to combine them. The indicial equation comes from these two terms. If you could help that would be awesome! This is due tomorrow and I have been trying/talking to a lot of people and n
No one seems to know how to solve it.

I did try just solving for r by setting the first part equal to 0 and the second part equal to 0x ( equating common terms) and then adding the two...I get r=1+sqrt(3)i and r= 1-sqrt(3)i...
 
Update: I found r to be 1+/- sqrt (5). think I'm good now..
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K