Solve Equation with Method of Frobenius

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation y''(x) - y'(x) = x using the method of Frobenius. Participants explore the implications of the non-homogeneous nature of the equation and the challenges it presents in finding a suitable solution form.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Frobenius method but expresses confusion regarding the transition to a homogeneous form and the implications of the indicial equation.
  • Some participants suggest first solving the homogeneous equation and finding linearly independent solutions, while others discuss the implications of the roots of the indicial equation.
  • Questions arise about the necessity of a logarithmic term when the roots differ by an integer and the relationship between the constants in the solution.

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Participants are actively discussing the implications of their findings, with some providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the roots of the indicial equation and the resulting solutions, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with a non-homogeneous equation and the specific requirements of the Frobenius method. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the treatment of the roots of the indicial equation and the resulting series solutions.

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Homework Statement


Use method of Frobenius to solve this equation:

##y''(x)-y'(x)=x##

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The Attempt at a Solution


Seek an answer of the form

##y=\sum _{n=0}^{\infty } a_n x^{n+r}##

Plug into the equation to get...

##\sum _{n=0}^{\infty } a_{n+1} (n+r) (n+r-1) x^{n+r-2}-\sum _{n=0}^{\infty } a_n
(n+r) x^{n+r-1}=x##

Now, for every previous attempt I have had at Frobenius method, I am used to having a homogeneous equation. I'm likely having a brain fart because I do not see how I would put this equation into a homogeneous form so I can get the correct indicial equation and solve for my roots. Does anyone have a suggestion for the next proper step to take?
 
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You can first solve for the homogeneous equation. Try to find two linearly independent solutions. Then the general solution of the homogeneous equation is given by the general linear combination of these two solutions. Since you are told to use the Frobenius method, use it. Of course, the equation is easier solved in closed form with the standard ansatz y(x)=\exp(\lambda x), but of course you can also use the Frobenius method.

Then you only need one particular solution of the inhomogeneous equation. It's clear that for this, the ansatz y(x)=a x^2+bx must lead to one.
 
So, by solving the homogeneous equation and equating powers of x, I end up with the indicial equation
##r\left(r-1\right)a_0##=0

This gives me an integer difference for my powers of ##r##. 0 and 1. If I set ##r=0##, then I get the following relationships for the constants.
No equation is yielded for ##a_0## since 0=0 for the case of ##n=0##
For higher powers of ##n##, I get a series generated, which I can add to the a_0.

##y=a_0+a_1 x+\frac{a_1 x^2}{2}+\left(\frac{1}{3!}+\frac{a_1}{3!}\right)
x^3+\left(\frac{1}{4!}+\frac{a_1}{4!}\right) x^4+\ldots##

This is basically the solution. What I do not understand is what happened with the case of r=1? I am apparently fully finished with the solution after only touching the case of r=0. Isn't there a natural log that term that I need if the powers differ by an integer? Is it because I actually ended up with two constants instead of all of the constants relating to each other?
 
First of all, setting r=r_1=0, for the a_k with k \geq 1 you get a recursion relation that determines them in terms of a_0 \neq 0 which is arbitrary. To find one of the linearly independent solutions, y_1(x) you can set a_0=1.

Since the indical equation has r=r_2=1 as a second solution, we have r_1-r_2=1 \in \mathbb{N}_0. Then we know that we can make the ansatz
y(x)=\gamma \ln x y_1(x)+\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} b_k x^{r_2+k}.
Plugging this into the differential equation, you'll see you find a solution with b_0=1 and and arbitrary b_1. You can set b_1=0. The constant \gamma is uniquely defined.
 
TheFerruccio said:
So, by solving the homogeneous equation and equating powers of x, I end up with the indicial equation
##r\left(r-1\right)a_0##=0

This gives me an integer difference for my powers of ##r##. 0 and 1.

If I set ##r=0##, then I get the following relationships for the constants.
No equation is yielded for ##a_0## since 0=0 for the case of ##n=0##
For higher powers of ##n##, I get a series generated, which I can add to the a_0.

##y=a_0+a_1 x+\frac{a_1 x^2}{2}+\left(\frac{1}{3!}+\frac{a_1}{3!}\right)
x^3+\left(\frac{1}{4!}+\frac{a_1}{4!}\right) x^4+\ldots##

This is basically the solution. What I do not understand is what happened with the case of r=1? I am apparently fully finished with the solution after only touching the case of r=0. Isn't there a natural log that term that I need if the powers differ by an integer? Is it because I actually ended up with two constants instead of all of the constants relating to each other?
When the roots differ by an integer, the larger of the roots will yield a solution. You essentially considered the r=1 case when you moved onto considering the coefficients ##a_1## and beyond. You obtained the solution you found that was proportional to ##a_1## and the particular solution. The smaller root may or may not result in a second solution depending on how the coefficients are related. In this problem, it did yield a solution, namely ##y_2(x) = a_0##. Since you found two independent solutions, you're done.

Fuch's theorem guarantees one solution. Only if the series method doesn't yield a second independent solution do you need to use the method vanhees described to find it.
 

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