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The discussion revolves around a problem in electrostatics involving a point charge and a grounded conducting sphere. The original poster attempts to find the induced surface charge on the sphere as a function of the angle θ and to integrate this to determine the total induced charge.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the induced surface charge density σ and the total induced charge Q. There are attempts to evaluate the integral for Q, with some questioning the correctness of the signs in their results. Others suggest checking specific steps in the calculations and the assumptions regarding the total induced charge.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of mathematical expressions and the application of Gauss' law, but no consensus has been reached on the expected total induced charge.

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There is uncertainty regarding the expected total induced charge on the sphere, with some participants suggesting it should be -q while others consider the influence of the distance from the sphere on this value. The original poster expresses confusion over differing sources regarding the expected outcome.

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Homework Statement


A point charge +q is situated a distance a from the center of a grounded conducting sphere of radius R. Find the induced surface charge on the sphere as a function of θ. Integrate this to get the total induced charge.

Homework Equations


σ=-εo*∂V/∂r
Q=∫σ da

The Attempt at a Solution


I've already figured out σ to be (-q/4∏)(a2/R-R)(R2+a2-2aRcosθ)-3/2. I also know that Q needs to equal -q. But I'm having trouble completing the integral to get to just -q. The way I've tried it is ∫^{2∏}_{0}∫^{∏}_{0} σ R2sinθ dθd\Phi; but I'm not getting it to reduce to just -q. I'm confident in my answer for σ, so my problem must be in my integral, but I can't figure out what it is.
 
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Well I worked it down further, and I got it to be +q, not -q, so I must be missing an extra negative somewhere. Here are my steps:

∫d\Phi from 0 to 2∏ is just 2∏
I used u substitution, with u=R2+a2-2aRcosθ, and du=2aRsinθdθ.
So now I have Q=(-qR/2)(1/2aR)(a2-R2)∫u-3/2du.
Q=(-q/4a)(-2)(a2-R2)u-1/2=(-q/2a)(R2-a2)(R2+a2-2aRcosθ) from 0 to ∏.

Q=(-q/2a)(R2-a2)[1/√(R2+a2+2aR)-1√(R2+a2-2aR)]

Q=(-q/2a)(R2-a2)[1/(R+a)-1/(R-a)]

Q=(-q/2a)(R2-a2)[(R-a-R-a)/(R2-a2)]

Q=(-q/2a)(R-a-R-a)=(-q/2a)(-2a)=q

Did I miss a negative?
 
darwin59 said:
Q=(-q/2a)(R2-a2)[1/√(R2+a2+2aR)-1/√(R2+a2-2aR)]

Q=(-q/2a)(R2-a2)[1/(R+a)-1/(R-a)]

Check the step where you evaluated √(R2+a2-2aR). Recall √(x2) = |x|
 
darwin59 said:
I also know that Q needs to equal -q.

Are you sure of this? For the case where the charge q is very far from the sphere, would you expect the charge q to be able to induce a total charge of -q on the sphere?
 
TSny said:
Are you sure of this? For the case where the charge q is very far from the sphere, would you expect the charge q to be able to induce a total charge of -q on the sphere?

We're assuming it's close enough to induce a total charge of -q on the sphere.
 
TSny said:
Check the step where you evaluated √(R2+a2-2aR). Recall √(x2) = |x|

I'm not sure how that would help. I could rearrange that as (-q/2a)(R2-a2)[1/(a+R)-1/(a-R)] to take care of the absolute value, but then I'll end up with (-q/2a)(R2-a2)/[(a-R-a-R)/(a2-R2), and I'm stuck with Q=-qR/a.

Actually, come to think of it...that's what the charge of the image is supposed to be, according to my book. Now I'm confused because some homework help I've found says the total charge should be -q, but it doesn't explain how it got there. -q is what I would expect, but at the same time, it's hard to imagine the distance from the sphere not influencing the induced charge on it, so maybe it is -qR/a. Any thoughts?
 
Apply Gauss' law to any closed surface that encloses the sphere but not the charge q; for example, you could choose a spherical surface concentric with the conducting sphere but just a bit larger.
 

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