Micromass' big summer challenge

In summary, the operations "*" and "x" are the same and commutative and associative with e as the neutral element.
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1. In a village of ##2016## people, prove that the probability that exactly ##m## days (ignore leap years) are not a birthday can be approximated by a Poisson distribution.

2. SOLVED BY Charles Link, Infrared Consider the spiral in the following graphic. The spiral is started with an isosceles right triangle with rectangular sides ##1##. At every step, we form adjoin a new triangle having one rectangular leg the hypothenuse of the previous triangle and the other leg equal to 1.

Spiral_of_Theodorus.png


We see that after we add 17 triangles, we have approximately performed one rotation. Let ##K## be the number of rotations that are performed after adding a googol (i.e.\ ##10^{100}##) triangles. Without using a calculator, find the first digit of ##K## and the number of digits of ##K##. This answer may use approximation techniques if they are shown to be valid.

3. SOLVED BY Infrared Compute for for each ##x\in \mathbb{R}##
[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \lim_{m\rightarrow +\infty} |\cos(n! \pi x)|^m[/tex]

4. a) SOLVED BY QuantumQuest In the Pascal triangle, replace all odd numbers by a black dot and remove all even numbers. For example, the first three rows of the Pascal triangle are
[tex]\begin{array}{|ccccc|}
\hline
& & 1 & & \\
& 1 & & 1 & \\
1 & & 2 & & 1\\
\hline
\end{array}
[/tex]
is transformed to
[tex]\begin{array}{|ccccc|}
\hline
& & \bullet & & \\
& \bullet & & \bullet & \\
\bullet & & & & \bullet\\
\hline
\end{array}
[/tex]

State and prove a conjecture relating the resulting figure to the Sierpinski triangle.

4. b) SOLVED BY Math_QED Let ##s_n## be the product of the terms in the ##n##th row of the Pascal triangle. Find
[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \frac{s_{n-1}s_{n+1}}{s_n^2}[/tex]

5. SOLVED BY QuantumQuest A drunk man is walking on an infinite grid ##\mathbb{Z}\times \mathbb{Z}##. Every time he gets to a point on the grid, he chooses at random between the directions "up", "down", "left", "right" so that each direction has equal probability. After choosing a direction, he continues in that direction until the next grid point. The drunk man starts at the pub which is located at ##(0,0)## and wishes to get home which is located at ##(10,10)##. Show that the drunk man will eventually reach his home with probability ##1##.

6. SOLVED BY Erland Show that every point in ##[-1,1]## is an accumulation point of the sequence ##x_n = \sin n ##.

7. SOLVED BY Svein Dana is moving into a mansion, and she needs a huge whiteboard. This whiteboard is to be so heavy that it cannot be lifted; only wheeled. A certain corridor is 2.7 metres wide, and is perpendicular to a 6.4 metre wide corridor. What is the length (in metres) of the longest whiteboard that she can manoeuvre around the corner?

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8. Let ##G## be a finite group and let ##p## be the smallest prime number which divide ##|G|##. Prove that every subgroup ##H## of ##G## such that ##p|H| = |G|## is normal. Use this to find all groups of order ##pq## with ##p## and ##q## (not necessarily distinct) primes.

9. SOLVED BY Infrared Let ##G## a semigroup (a set with an associative multiplicaton). Prove that the following three conditions are equivalent:
a) ##G## is a group
b) ##G## is not empty and for all ##a## and ##b## in ##G##, we have that the equation ##ax=b## has a solution and ##xa = b## has a solution.
c) There exists an ##e \in G## such that ##xe = x## for all ##x\in G##. Furthermore, for that specific ##e##, we have that for any ##x\in G##, there is some ##x'\in G## such that ##xx' = e##.

10. SOLVED BY mfb Let ##X## be a set equipped with two operations ##\times## and ##*##. Suppose that
a) There is an ##e\in X## such that for each ##x\in X## we have ##e*x = x*e = x##.
b) There is an ##e'\in X## such that for each ##x\in X## we have ##e'\times x = x\times e' = x##.
c) for all ##a,b,c,d\in X## we have ##(a\times b)*(c\times d) = (a*c) \times (b*d)##.
Prove that ##\times## and ##*## are the same. Prove furthermore, that these operations are commutative, associative and have ##e=e'##.
 
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Nice puzzles.10:

There can be only one neutral element per operation: Assume e and f are both neutral elements for "*", then f=f*e=e*f=e. Same for "x" of course.

Consider rule c for (a x e) * (e x e') = (a * e) x (e * e'). This simplifies to a x e = a for all a.
Consider rule c for (e x a) * (e' x e) = (e * e') x (a * e). This simplifies to e x a = a for all a.
e, the neutral element for "*", is also the neutral element for "x". Therefore, e'=e.

Rule (c) with b=c=e simplifies to a * d = a x d for all a,d. Therefore, the operations are identical.
Rule (c) with a=d=e simplifies to b * c = c * d for all c,d. The operation is commutative.
Rule (c) with b=e simplifies to a*(c*d) = (a*c)*d for all a,c,d. The operation is associative.
 
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As to 7:
Assume the angle between the whiteboard and the 2.7m corridor is u. Let h stand for 6.4m and w stand for 2.7m. Then the maximum length of the whiteboard in that position is [itex] l=\frac{h}{\cos(u)}+\frac{w}{\sin(u)}[/itex]. Now we need the minimum of that expression, so we derive with respect to u: [tex]\frac{dl}{du}=\frac{h\cdot\sin(u)}{\cos^{2}(u)}-\frac{w\cdot\cos(u)}{\sin^{2}(u)} [/tex].
Do the standard thing and find where [itex]\frac{dl}{du}=0 [/itex], which means that [itex] \frac{h\cdot\sin(u)}{\cos^{2}(u)}-\frac{w\cdot\cos(u)}{\sin^{2}(u)}=0[/itex]. Solving this gives [itex]\tan^{3}(u)=w/h [/itex] or [itex]u=\arctan(\sqrt[3]{\frac{w}{h}}) [/itex]. Insert the values for w and h and get [itex]u=0.643501109 [/itex] and thereby [itex] \sin(u)=0.6[/itex] and [itex]\cos(u)=0.731688869 [/itex]. Insert these values in the formula for l, and you get l=13.24689m.

That is the theoretical answer, in practice do not go above 13m.
 
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I am a bit annoyed I am on a too low level to do any of these.
 
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Math_QED said:
I am a bit annoyed I am on a too low level to do any of these.

You just passed high school right? Do you know calculus? Linear algebra? Maybe I can make a challenge especially for high school/beginning university students.
 
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micromass said:
You just passed high school right? Do you know calculus? Linear algebra? Maybe I can make a challenge especially for high school/beginning university students.

Yes, I finished high school in Europe and I am going to university next year. In calculus, I saw sequences, series, limits, derivatives and integrals of functions f: A -> R. From linear algebra, I only saw things like matrices, determinants but not what those things really are, just so we could use it. I would be interested to know what topics other countries cover in high school.

Btw, such a challenge would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Math_QED said:
Yes, I finished high school in Europe and I am going to university next year. In calculus, I saw sequences, series, limits, derivatives and integrals of functions f: A -> R. From linear algebra, I only saw things like matrices, determinants but not what those things really are, just so we could use it. Such a challenge would be greatly accepted!

As for this challenge, question 3, both questions 4 (and especially the second one) shouldn't be out of your reach. If you're willing to look up some basic definitions, then question 9 shouldn't be impossible for you either.
 
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Math_QED said:
Thanks a lot, for 4b), I claim the solution is e. This was more difficult to calculate than anything I received in high school...

Doesn't count unless you give the method!
 
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micromass said:
Doesn't count unless you give the method!

It's coming, I'm writing it down neatly so I can take a screenshot.
 
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Problem 4 (the first one)

The Sierpinski triangle is a fractal with the shape of an equilateral triangle, subdivided recursively into smaller equilateral triangles. An image of such triangle can be seen here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle#/media/File:Sierpinski_triangle.svg.

Now to the Pascal triangle. We replace all odd numbers by a black dot and remove all even numbers, as the problem states.

In order to construct a conjecture that relates the previously resulted figure to the Sierpinski triangle, we can investigate how many odd numbers (i.e black dots) are there on the nth row of the Pascal triangle. This way, we can try to verify some pattern for both black dots and blank spaces, as we run down Pascal triangle and finally come to a conclusion, about the overall pattern that is formed.

We define a function ##f(n)## that denotes the number of black dots on the n-th row. We calculate ##f(n)## for a few values:

##n## 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 ##\cdots##
##f## 1 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 4 | 04 | 08 | 04 | 08 | 08 | 16 ##\cdots##

Now, if we partition the above values for ##f## in this way

1 | 2 | 2,4 | 2,4,4,8 | 2,4,4,8,4,8,8,16 | ##\cdots##

we see a pattern: Each block can be obtained by doubling all ##f(n)## values seen prior to that block. We notice that these blocks have breaks that occur after the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 16th positions. Since each such block - except first, begins with a 2 - i.e 2 black dots, we can make the following conjecture:

For any positive integer l, the row ##2^l## contains only blank spaces ( one for each even number)- except for the 1's on both ends of the row. From the above table we can see that this holds true for the few values of ##f##, so we can use this as a base case for a proof by induction.

We assume that our conjecture holds true for row ##2^k##. We must show that holds true for ##2^{k + 1}## as well.

What is most important here, is that any triangular pattern having one black dot at the top and black dots along its sides will behave in exactly the same way.

pascal.gif


Now, since the sum of two even numbers is even, we have that our inductive hypothesis requires that the triangular pattern of even numbers or equivalently of the blank (white) hexagons in the above sketch must all be even (blank). That means that the line of black dots, from P3 down to the next line of blank hexagons (not including the blank hexagon of this line), as the line from P4 down to the same point (also not including it) must contain only black hexagons.
(For practical reasons, the sketch is relatively small, but you can see all mentioned above, from points P1 and P2 and their respective lines of black hexagons down to P5). Now, by our observations about odd - even parity (black - white hexagons), what holds true about triangle OP1P2 regarding patterns of black and white hexagons, holds true also for the triangles with top points P3 and P4 respectively, excluding the common point that these two triangles have on the next line of hexagons (analogous to P5 case). But since the two hexagons above the common hexagon on this line are black , the common hexagon is blank. But this line of hexagons according to previous analysis, is the ##2^{k + 1}## line (from the top of the external triangle up to this line (not included), we have the first ##2^k## lines). So, line ##2^{k + 1}## consists only of blank hexagons, with the exception of both end-points of this line. Hence, by means of mathematical induction, it must hold true that for every positive integer l > 1, row ##2^l## contains only blanks (i.e even numbers), again except for the two black dots at bot ends of this row.

The pattern we found is nothing else, but a recursive subdivision of an equilateral triangle - every part of a Pascal triangle is such a triangle, regarding the number of positions of odd - even numbers or in our problem, of black dots and blanks, into smaller equilateral triangles. This recursive subdivision, can be seen very easily, as we do the above mathematical induction and see the number of patterns that appear as ##k## becomes bigger. So, we have effectively come to a Sierpinski triangle.
 
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9) It is clear that a group has properties a,b, so it suffices to show that either of a,b imply that [itex]G[/itex] is a group.
For a): We know that [itex]G[/itex] is nonempty, so pick an element [itex]x\in G[/itex]. Let [itex]e_R[/itex] be an element of [itex]G[/itex] satisfying [itex]xe_R=x[/itex] (picking [itex]a=b=x[/itex] in the problem statement). We check that [itex]e_R[/itex] is a right identity on [itex] G[/itex] as follows: for any [itex]y\in G[/itex], there is a [itex]z\in G[/itex] such that y=zx. Then [itex]ye_R=(zx)e_R=z(xe_R)=zx=y[/itex]. By analogous reasoning, there is a left identity on [itex]G[/itex]; call it [itex]e_L[/itex]. From the equation [itex]e_L=e_Le_R=e_R[/itex], the two identities are equal and so there is a two-sided identity on [itex]G[/itex], call it now [itex] e[/itex]. All that's left is to check the existence of (two-sided) inverses. Let [itex]x\in G[/itex] be arbitrary and let [itex]x'[/itex] and [itex]x''[/itex] satisfy [itex] x'x=e=xx''[/itex]. Since [itex]ex'=x'e=x'[/itex], we have [itex]x'xx'=x'xx''[/itex], which implies [itex] x'=x''[/itex] by multiplying both sides by a left inverse of [itex]x'x[/itex]. So each [itex]x\in G[/itex] has a two-sided inverse [itex]x^{-1}:=x'=x''[/itex].

For b): Observe that if [itex]g\in G[/itex] is such that [itex] gg=g[/itex], then [itex]g=e[/itex] (by applying g' on the right). Let [itex]x\in G[/itex] be arbitrary and notice that [itex](x'x)(x'x)=x'(xx')x=x'x[/itex], from which it follows that [itex]x'x=e[/itex]. Once we show that [itex]e[/itex] is a two-sided inverse, this is the statement that [itex]x'[/itex] is a two-sided inverse for [itex]x[/itex] and we will be done. Indeed, for all [itex]x\in G[/itex], we have [itex]ex=(xx')x=x(x'x)=xe=x[/itex].
 
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3) Claim: the limit is [itex]1[/itex] if [itex]x\in\mathbb{Q}[/itex] and [itex]0[/itex] if [itex]x\in\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q}.[/itex]

Case 1: Suppose [itex]x[/itex] is irrational. Then [itex]n!\pi x[/itex] is not a multiple of [itex]\pi[/itex] for any [itex]x[/itex] and hence there is a strict inequality [itex]|\cos(n!\pi x)|<1[/itex], which implies that the inner limit is zero for all [itex]n[/itex] (because [itex]\lim_{m\to\infty}a^m=0[/itex] if [itex]|a|<1[/itex]) and so the problem reduces to [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}0=0[/itex].

Case 2: If [itex]x[/itex] is rational, then there is a natural number [itex]N[/itex] such that [itex]xN[/itex] is an integer. For all [itex]n\geq N[/itex], we have
[itex]\lim_{m\to\infty}|\cos(n!\pi x)|^m=\lim_{m\to\infty}1^m=1[/itex] since [itex]N[/itex] divides [itex]n![/itex] and so the argument of the cosine is an integer multiple of [itex]\pi[/itex]. Since the inner limit is [itex]1[/itex] for sufficiently large [itex]n[/itex], the limit over [itex]n[/itex] evaluates to unity.

Additional note: The absolute value can be removed without altering the problem since [itex]n!x[/itex] is actually an even integer for large [itex]n[/itex] and so the value of the cosine is eventually [itex]1[/itex].
 
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I think I have a solution to #2. ## \\ K=1+(\int\limits_{18}^{10^{100}}\ (1/\sqrt{N}) dN )/(2 \pi) ## (approximately). ## \\ ## Solving ## K=1+(\sqrt{10^{100}}-\sqrt{18})/\pi \\ ##. The answer is approximately ## K=3.1 E+49 ## so ## K ## has ## 3 ## as a first digit and has ## 50 ## digits.## \\ ## (For N>18, ## \Delta \theta=1/\sqrt{N} ## (approximately for each increment ## \Delta N ##. This approximation gets far better as ## N ## gets larger)). ## \\ ## Note: ## \sqrt{10^{100}}=10^{50} \\ ##. The integral above approximates a summation of ## \Delta \theta_N ## as ## N ## goes from ## 18 ## to ## 10^{100} ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
I think I have a solution to #2. ## \\ K=1+(\int\limits_{18}^{10^{100}}\ (1/\sqrt{N}) dN )/(2 \pi) ## (approximately).

How do you find this?
 
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micromass said:
How do you find this?
Perhaps I should have put a little more detail in the notes I included after the solution. This one is quite interesting=I hadn't previously seen it, but (assuming I got it right), it was kind of an easy one for me. Perhaps I should have not hurried to get in my input and left it for some of the college level students.
 
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You did get it right. But I don't think everybody will find it obvious what you did.
 
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micromass said:
You did get it right. But I don't think everybody will find it obvious what you did.
Please leave that one then for the college level students. You have one or two who are saying some of your problems are too difficult for them, so this would be a very good one for them.
 
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Charles Link said:
Please leave that one then for the college level students. You have one or two who are saying some of your problems are too difficult for them, so this would be a very good one for them.

I guess I'll be the college student to take up the challenge.
Notice that the [itex]n[/itex]-th triangle adds an angle of [itex]\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})[/itex]. The total angle of the first [itex]N[/itex] triangles is then [itex]\sum_{n=1}^N\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})[/itex]. The mean value theorem gives us [itex]\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}[/itex] for some [itex]0\leq x\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}[/itex]. Substituting these extreme values (since the expression written is decreasing in [itex]x[/itex]), we have
[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\leq\arcsin\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\right)\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}.[/tex]

So, the total angle [itex]\Theta[/itex] after adding [itex] N[/itex] triangles satisfies [itex]\sum_{n=1}^N\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\leq\Theta\leq\sum_{n=1}^N\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/itex]. The rightmost term is bounded above by [itex]1+\int_1^N\frac{dn}{\sqrt{n}}=1+2\sqrt{N}-2=2\sqrt{N}-1[/itex]. The leftmost term is bounded below by [itex]\int_1^N\frac{dn}{\sqrt{n+1}}=2\sqrt{N+1}-2\sqrt{2}[/itex]. Putting in [itex]N=10^{100}[/itex], we have [itex]2\sqrt{10^{100}+1}-2\sqrt{2}\leq\Theta\leq 2\sqrt{10^{100}}=2\cdot 10^{50}-1[/itex]. The leftmost term has the lower bound [itex]2\sqrt{10^{100}+1}-2\sqrt{2}>2\sqrt{10^{100}}-3=2\cdot 10^{50}-1[/itex].
So, [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}-3<\Theta<2\cdot 10^{50}-1[/itex]. Dividing by [itex]2\pi[/itex] to get the number of full rotations gives Charles' answer.
 
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Infrared said:
I guess I'll be the college student to take up the challenge.
Notice that the [itex]n[/itex]-th triangle adds an angle of [itex]\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})[/itex]. The total angle of the first [itex]N[/itex] triangles is then [itex]\sum_{n=1}^N\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})[/itex]. The mean value theorem gives us [itex]\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}[/itex] for some [itex]0\leq x\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}[/itex]. Substituting these extreme values (since the expression written is decreasing in [itex]x[/itex]), we have
[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\leq\arcsin\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\right)\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}.[/tex]

So, the total angle [itex]\Theta[/itex] after adding [itex] N[/itex] triangles satisfies [itex]\sum_{n=1}^N\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\leq\Theta\leq\sum_{n=1}^N\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/itex]. The rightmost term is bounded above by [itex]1+\int_1^N\frac{dn}{\sqrt{n}}=1+2\sqrt{N}-1=2\sqrt{N}[/itex]. The leftmost term is bounded below by [itex]\int_1^N\frac{dn}{\sqrt{n+1}}=2\sqrt{N+1}-\sqrt{2}[/itex]. Putting in [itex]N=10^{100}[/itex], we have [itex]2\sqrt{10^{101}}-\sqrt{2}\leq\Theta\leq 2\sqrt{10^{100}}=2\cdot 10^{50}[/itex]. The leftmost term has the lower bound [itex]2\sqrt{10^{101}}-\sqrt{2}>2\sqrt{10^{100}}-2=2\cdot 10^{50}-2[/itex].
So, [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}-2<\Theta<2\cdot 10^{50}[/itex]. Dividing by [itex]2\pi[/itex] to get the number of full rotations gives Charles' answer.
Your very clever observation that ## 1/\sqrt{N+1}< \Delta \theta_N <1/\sqrt{N} ## allows you to get extreme precision in your final result. Looks to me to be a very good solution.
 
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Personally, my solution used the Euler-Maclaurin integral formula which allows you to get a bound as precise as you like.
 
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micromass said:
Personally, my solution used the Euler-Maclaurin integral formula which allows you to get a bound as precise as you like.
Looking it over more closely, the upper bound has a ## \sqrt{10} ## factor on it. Perhaps I spoke too soon, but I still like the solution. :-)
 
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Infrared said:
Sorry, but what is the factor of [itex]\sqrt{10}[/itex] that you are referring to?
I think your last line should read ## \sqrt{10^{100}+1} ##. Yes, that is now much better precision !
 
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Charles Link said:
I think your last line should read ## \sqrt{10^{100}+1} ##. Yes, that is now much better precision !
Thanks, I think I fixed it now :)
 
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Infrared said:
I guess I'll be the college student to take up the challenge.
Notice that the [itex]n[/itex]-th triangle adds an angle of [itex]\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})[/itex]. The total angle of the first [itex]N[/itex] triangles is then [itex]\sum_{n=1}^N\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})[/itex]. The mean value theorem gives us [itex]\arcsin(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}})=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}[/itex] for some [itex]0\leq x\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}[/itex]. Substituting these extreme values (since the expression written is decreasing in [itex]x[/itex]), we have
[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\leq\arcsin\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\right)\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}.[/tex]

So, the total angle [itex]\Theta[/itex] after adding [itex] N[/itex] triangles satisfies [itex]\sum_{n=1}^N\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}\leq\Theta\leq\sum_{n=1}^N\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/itex]. The rightmost term is bounded above by [itex]1+\int_1^N\frac{dn}{\sqrt{n}}=1+2\sqrt{N}-1=2\sqrt{N}[/itex]. The leftmost term is bounded below by [itex]\int_1^N\frac{dn}{\sqrt{n+1}}=2\sqrt{N+1}-\sqrt{2}[/itex]. Putting in [itex]N=10^{100}[/itex], we have [itex]2\sqrt{10^{100}+1}-\sqrt{2}\leq\Theta\leq 2\sqrt{10^{100}}=2\cdot 10^{50}[/itex]. The leftmost term has the lower bound [itex]2\sqrt{10^{100}+1}-\sqrt{2}>2\sqrt{10^{100}}-2=2\cdot 10^{50}-2[/itex].
So, [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}-2<\Theta<2\cdot 10^{50}[/itex]. Dividing by [itex]2\pi[/itex] to get the number of full rotations gives Charles' answer.
Please check over your last couple of lines. Your lower bound for the ##K ## gives ##( 2 \sqrt{10^{100}+1}-2\sqrt{2})/(2 \pi) ## and your upper bound ## (2 \sqrt{10^{100}}-2)/(2 \pi) ##. (You missed the "2" multiplying the ## \sqrt{2} ##)
 
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Charles Link said:
Please check over your last couple of lines. Your lower bound for the ##K ## gives ##( 2 \sqrt{10^{100}+1}-2\sqrt{2})/(2 \pi) ## and your upper bound ## (2 \sqrt{10^{100}}-2)/(2 \pi) ##.

No, I first get a lower bound on [itex]\Theta[/itex] of [itex]2\sqrt{10^{100}+1}-\sqrt{2}[/itex] (where are you getting a [itex]2\sqrt{2}[/itex]?). For the sake of having nice numbers, I weaken this to [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}-2[/itex]. This has nothing to do with my upper bound of [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}[/itex].
 
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Infrared said:
No, I first get a lower bound on [itex]\Theta[/itex] of [itex]2\sqrt{10^{100}+1}-\sqrt{2}[/itex] (where are you getting a [itex]2\sqrt{2}[/itex]?). For the sake of having nice numbers, I weaken this to [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}-2[/itex]. This has nothing to do with my upper bound of [itex]2\cdot 10^{50}[/itex].
I get ## -2\sqrt{2} ## for the integral with N=1. (## -2\sqrt{N+1} ##)
 
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Apologies, it has been a while since I've had to do real computations. If you see any more mistakes, please PM me instead so that we don't spam the thread with this.
 
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As to 6:

Consider ℝ mod 2Π. Since Π is irrational, no n∈ℕ will ever be 0 mod 2Π. This means that {n; n∈ℕ} mod 2∏ will be dense in [0, 2Π) and therefore {sin(n),n∈ℕ} will be dense in [-1, 1].

I really should have done that in a more rigorous way, but I am a bit tired from garden exercise.
 
  • #32
Svein said:
As to 6:

Consider ℝ mod 2Π. Since Π is irrational, no n∈ℕ will ever be 0 mod 2Π. This means that {n; n∈ℕ} mod 2∏ will be dense in [0, 2Π) and therefore {sin(n),n∈ℕ} will be dense in [-1, 1].

I really should have done that in a more rigorous way, but I am a bit tired from garden exercise.
Yes, but isn't the density simply another formulation? I thought this had to be shown.
 
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I prefer an elementary proof.
 
  • #34
#6.

We prove that every point ##z=x+iy=e^{i\theta}## on the complex unit circle ##C## is an accumulation point of the the sequence ##a_n=e^{in}=\cos n + i\sin n##. By taking imaginary parts of this, we obtain the desired conclusion.

First, notice that all terms in the sequence ##\{e^{in}\}## are mutually unequal, for if ##e^{im}=e^{in}## with ##m\neq n##, then ##m-n=2\pi k## for some integer ##k\neq 0##, which implies that ##\pi=\frac{m-n}{2k}##, contradicting that ##\pi## is irrational.

Now, let ##z\in C## and ##\epsilon>0##. We must prove that there is an ##n## such that ##|e^{in}-z|<\epsilon.##

Since the unit circle ##C## is compact, the Bolzano-Weierstrass Theorem gives that ##\{e^{in}\}## has a convergent subsequence, ##\{e^{in_k}\}_{k=1}^\infty##, with a limit ##w\in C##. Then there are ##k,l## with ##l>k## such that ##|e^{in_k}-w|<\epsilon/2## and ##|e^{in_l}-w|<\epsilon/2##, which, by the above, implies that ##0<|e^{in_l}-e^{in_k}|<|e^{in_l}-w|+|w-e^{in_k}|<\epsilon/2+\epsilon/2=\epsilon##. Then, also ##|e^{i(n_l-n_k)}-1|=|e^{-in_k}(e^{in_l}-e^{in_k})|<\epsilon##.
Now, there is an ##\alpha\in(-\pi,\pi]## (##\alpha\neq 0)## and a ##p\in \mathbb Z## such that ##n_l-n_k=\alpha + 2\pi p##. Put ##N=\text{floor}\,(\pi/|\alpha|)##.
Then, there is a ##q\in\mathbb Z## such that ##0\le q\le N## and a ##\phi\in(-|\alpha|,|\alpha|)## such that ##z=e^{i(q\alpha+\phi)}##. It follows that ##|z-e^{iq\alpha}|=|e^{iq\alpha}(e^{i\phi}-1)|=|e^{i\phi}-1|<|e^{i\alpha}-1|<\epsilon##. Since ##e^{iq\alpha}=e^{iq(n_l-n_k)}## and ##n=q(n_l-n_k)## is a nonnegative integer, the conclusion follows.
 
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I have a partial solution for #5, regarding the drunk man.

Let's assume he starts at (1,0) and home is at (0,0). After one step he is (all probabilities expressed as multiples of 1/4):

##1(0,0), 1(2,0), 2(1,1)##

##p(n,m)## means he is at point ##(n, m)## or equivalent with probability ##p/4##. Using symmetry we always have ##n \ge m \ge 0##

After 3 steps he is expected to be at

##21(0,0), (4,0), 8(3,1), 6(2,2), 12(2,0), 16(1,1)##

This time probabilities are in 1/64th.

(Note: out of the 21/64 times he is home at step 3, 16 of these are by getting home at step 1 and staying there, and the other 5 are when he gets home in exactly 3 steps.)

After 5 steps:

##380(0,0), \dots , 141(2,0), 164(1,1)##

(Note: 380 = 256 (home in 1 step) + 80 (home in 3 steps) + 44 (home in 5 steps))

After 7 steps:

##6549(0,0) \dots##

I put this sequence ##1, 21, 380, 6549 \dots## into oeis and found.

https://oeis.org/search?q=1,+21,+380&sort=&language=english&go=Search

A quick analysis suggests that the sequence of probabilities above may eventually converge to ##1##. Although, I can't prove this, as I have been unable to find a (binomial-based) formula for this sequence.

If he must eventually reach any given adjacent square, then he must eventually stagger home.

Since no one else had posted anything, I thought I'd post what I'd done.
 
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