Miller indices for hexagonal crystal systems

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The discussion revolves around the derivation and understanding of Miller indices for hexagonal crystal systems, particularly focusing on the conversion from four indices to three. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings and seek resources for better comprehension.

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  • One participant expresses frustration over the lack of derivations for the formulae used to convert four Miller indices into three, suggesting a desire for a deeper understanding rather than rote memorization.
  • Another participant explains that the use of four Miller indices is a convenience due to the symmetry of hexagonal crystals, noting that the third index can be dropped without loss of generality.
  • This participant elaborates on the geometric relationship between the axes in hexagonal crystals, emphasizing the significance of the 120-degree angle between the a- and b- axes and the existence of a third axis, "d".
  • A later reply provides a link to a German Wikipedia page that contains a simple derivation of the Miller indices, suggesting it as a potential resource for understanding.

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Participants generally agree on the convenience of using four indices in hexagonal crystals and the geometric reasoning behind it. However, there remains disagreement regarding the derivation of the formulae, with some participants seeking clarity and others providing explanations without consensus on the best approach.

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Limitations include the absence of detailed derivations in commonly referenced texts and the reliance on specific geometric interpretations that may not be universally accepted.

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Hi everyone, to find the draw the direction for a given miller index say, [1234] we first convert this miller index consisting of 4 indices into one containing 3 indices.
To do so, we have a set of formulae prescribed in almost every book. Sadly I haven't been able to come across a single book the gives the derivation of those formulae!
I thought that i could use vector-component method to get the results but that gives totally weird formulae not even close to the ones i see in my textbooks. (have a look at the attached image)

So, can anyone suggest me a textbook, a link or anything that can help me understand the derivation? I'm not finding the enthusiasm for rote-memorising the formulae if i don't know where they come from...

Thanks!
 

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The 4 Miller indices often used with hexagonal crystals are just a convenience. The 3rd index can be dropped. 4 indices are used to make planes with the same symmetry also "look alike" in the 4-notation.
The physical reason is that the a- and b- axes form a 120 degree angle. There is a third axis within the basal plane that has the exact same symmetry. You get this axis, let's call it "d", by rotating the b-axis by another 120 degrees. So instead of using a and be as basis vectors, you could just as well use b and d, or d and a. Absolutely nothing would change, as the 120 degree rotation is the defining feature of a hexagonal crystal.
The redundant 3rd Miller index corresponds to the reciprocal space "d*" axis. The 4th index is along the c-axis.
 
M Quack said:
The 4 Miller indices often used with hexagonal crystals are just a convenience. The 3rd index can be dropped. 4 indices are used to make planes with the same symmetry also "look alike" in the 4-notation.
The physical reason is that the a- and b- axes form a 120 degree angle. There is a third axis within the basal plane that has the exact same symmetry. You get this axis, let's call it "d", by rotating the b-axis by another 120 degrees. So instead of using a and be as basis vectors, you could just as well use b and d, or d and a. Absolutely nothing would change, as the 120 degree rotation is the defining feature of a hexagonal crystal.
The redundant 3rd Miller index corresponds to the reciprocal space "d*" axis. The 4th index is along the c-axis.
yes, i get that but still, how do we arrive at those formulae?
i tried using vectors and their components method but it doesn't work
 

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