Minimizing L_infty Norm: Finding Closest Points to b on x-axis and y=x

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The discussion revolves around a minimization problem involving the L_infinity norm, specifically finding the closest points to the vector b = (-1,2)^T on the x-axis and the line y=x. Participants are tasked with understanding the implications of using the L_infinity norm compared to the Euclidean norm.

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  • Participants explore the definition of the L_infinity norm and its application in minimizing distances to specified geometric locations. There is confusion regarding the relationship between minimizing the norm and the coordinates involved, particularly in terms of maximum absolute values.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the L_infinity norm and its implications for the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the minimization and whether the solutions are unique, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment that requires them to solve the problem using both the Euclidean and L_infinity norms, leading to questions about the consistency of results between the two methods.

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This is a routine minimization problem, find the closest point or points to b = (-1,2)^T that lie on (a) the x-axis and (b) the line y=x.

First I am supposed to solve it with the Euclidian norm, which is no problem, but then we are supposed to solve with the [tex]L_\infty[/tex] norm. I am a little confused because the [tex]L_\infty[/tex] is the max of all points, so it is asking to minimize the maximum point?? :rolleyes:
 
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You just take the maximum absolte value over all of your coordinates.

It's just another way to conceptualize space in R^n.
 
I know what the [tex]L_\infty[/tex] norm is. I am confused because the closest point will be when ||Ax-b|| is minimized, but the norm of [tex]||Ax-b||_\infty[/tex] finds the maximum absolute value, which means that either the minimum must be less than zero for the two to agree, or if the minimum distance is greater than zero the problem doesn't make sense because the maximum value won't be the minimum.

To me there seems to be a contradiction.
 
No, no. The infinity norm is the absolute value of the coordinate with the largest absolute value. Find x that minimizes this.

Consider the first problem.

You want to minimize [tex]||(-1,2)-(x,0)||_\infty=||(-1-x,2)||_\infty[/tex]. What is this if x is between 1 and 3? What is it otherwise? How can you minimize it? Is the x that minimizes the norm unique?
 
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Oh, right, this actually does make sense - just really strange to think about. So then the idea is to minimize [tex]||(-1-x,2)||_\infty[/tex] which would be minimum of |-1-x|, and |2|. So then the minimum infinity norm would be whenever 1+x < 2 or x < 1.

Then for the line y = x the idea will be to minimize |-1-x| and |2-y|. So it would be a minimum where the two intersect.
 

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