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## Main Question or Discussion Point

Spherically symmetric infinitesimally thin shells

can be described via the well known junction formalism of Israel.

Let us consider such shell in vacuum,

this means that on both sides of the shell we have Schwarzschild spacetimes.

One of the dynamical equations is the first component of the Einstein equation

in the thin shell limit:

sqrt(1-2mc/r+v^2) - sqrt(1-2(mc+mg)/r+v^2) = mr/r

where r is the circumferential radius;

v = dr/dtau, and tau is the proper time of the shell;

mc is the central Schwarzschild mass parameter;

mg is the gravitational mass of the shell, this means

that the outer Schwarzschild mass parameter is mc+mg;

and mr is the rest mass of the shell, mr > 0;

Let assume the dust case,

when all mass parameters are contant during the motion.

In the case of Minkowski-Minkowski junction mc=0, mg=0

and the equation reduces to

sqrt(1+v^2) - sqrt(1+v^2) = mr/r

therefore mr=0 is the only solution.

This is what we expect becaue the whole space is Minkowski.

But let us consider Minkowski-Schwarzschild junction.

In this case mc=0 but mg is not restricted.

The equation is

sqrt(1+v^2) - sqrt(1-2mg/r+v^2) = mr/r

The solution of this equation for mg is:

mg = mr(2r*sqrt(1+v^2)-mr)/r/2

We can see that for mr=0 we get mg=0,

but it is possible to set mg=0 with positive mr also!

For example with the initial condition v=0,

and mr=2r we get mg=0.

And since mass parameters are constant during the motion,

we get a moving shell solution with positive rest mass

but zero gravitational mass,

which means that the spacetime is Minkowski both inside and outside!

It is very strange if this is the reality.

We have energy in the spacetime

but the spacetime is Minkowski except on a singular hypesurface.

can be described via the well known junction formalism of Israel.

Let us consider such shell in vacuum,

this means that on both sides of the shell we have Schwarzschild spacetimes.

One of the dynamical equations is the first component of the Einstein equation

in the thin shell limit:

sqrt(1-2mc/r+v^2) - sqrt(1-2(mc+mg)/r+v^2) = mr/r

where r is the circumferential radius;

v = dr/dtau, and tau is the proper time of the shell;

mc is the central Schwarzschild mass parameter;

mg is the gravitational mass of the shell, this means

that the outer Schwarzschild mass parameter is mc+mg;

and mr is the rest mass of the shell, mr > 0;

Let assume the dust case,

when all mass parameters are contant during the motion.

In the case of Minkowski-Minkowski junction mc=0, mg=0

and the equation reduces to

sqrt(1+v^2) - sqrt(1+v^2) = mr/r

therefore mr=0 is the only solution.

This is what we expect becaue the whole space is Minkowski.

But let us consider Minkowski-Schwarzschild junction.

In this case mc=0 but mg is not restricted.

The equation is

sqrt(1+v^2) - sqrt(1-2mg/r+v^2) = mr/r

The solution of this equation for mg is:

mg = mr(2r*sqrt(1+v^2)-mr)/r/2

We can see that for mr=0 we get mg=0,

but it is possible to set mg=0 with positive mr also!

For example with the initial condition v=0,

and mr=2r we get mg=0.

And since mass parameters are constant during the motion,

we get a moving shell solution with positive rest mass

but zero gravitational mass,

which means that the spacetime is Minkowski both inside and outside!

It is very strange if this is the reality.

We have energy in the spacetime

but the spacetime is Minkowski except on a singular hypesurface.