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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and functionality of various types of mirrors, particularly focusing on concave mirrors and their unique properties. Participants explore the geometry of these mirrors, their applications, and the visual effects they create, including reflections and image orientation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about why letters in the mirror are not reversed or upside-down, suggesting a fascination with the properties of concave mirrors.
  • One participant notes that the mirror in question is cylindrically concave, which contributes to the unique reflection properties.
  • Another participant shares personal experiences with mirrors, discussing the challenges of understanding reflections in different types of mirrors, such as corner mirrors.
  • A participant mentions the importance of finding the correct position for achieving non-distorted images, highlighting the relationship between horizontal and vertical magnifications.
  • There is a note about the choice of image used in the discussion, with one participant pointing out that the orientation of British book spines may have caused initial confusion regarding the mirror's effect.
  • A later reply introduces the idea that the mirror's surface was generated using computer algorithms, suggesting a complex design beyond simple cylindrical shapes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding and fascination with the properties of concave mirrors, indicating that multiple views remain regarding their functionality and the reasons behind their unique reflections. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the nature of the mirror's design or its implications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific geometric properties and effects of mirrors, but there are unresolved questions about the implications of these properties and how they relate to the design of the mirrors discussed.

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http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/dn16585-amazing-mirrors/1 (links to this and more)
http://www.math.drexel.edu/~ahicks/
 
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At first I thought it was a lot cooler...I though it object's image was rotated. That would be nuts.
 
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Nice. Took me a few minutes to figure it out.

It's a cylindrical mirror.
 
It's a concave mirror, I'm not sure I understand the fascination? :shy:
 
Oh, the phone book. One day, I too will understand the geometry of spacetime. But not today. Too busy.
 
redargon said:
It's a concave mirror, I'm not sure I understand the fascination? :shy:

The fascination: why are the letters in the mirror not reversed or upside-down?

Hint: a spherically concave mirror would flip the letters upside-down.
 
because it's cylindrically concave, not spherically concave, but you can see that by looking at the top cross section. It is pretty cool though. I used to love messing around with mirrors and trying to make things like periscopes with compact mirrors and toilet roll cardboard tubes. My mo used to get a little pissed that I was dismantling her compacts though :smile:

It's a little bit like those corner mirrors you get in bathrooms some times (a mirror on each wall in a corner). They used to freak me out, because your reflection isn't reversed. so if you raise your right hand, your reflection raises "his" right hand too. After years of learning how to comb your hair "in reverse" in a normal mirror and then stepping into a bathroom with one of these and your brain has to have a double take :-p
 
And, robphy was careful to find the spot where horizontal and vertical magnifications were equal in magnitude, but opposite in sign, to get a non-distorted image of the book.

Note also the stuff going on with the hole images, that are either behind or in front of the "focal point". The mirror's shadow has an interesting image as well.
 
Unfortunately they choose a poor image to show this effect - New Scientist is a British publication, British books have the spine printed the other way around (title reads top-down) It confused us for a while!
 
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Sheesh, I completely missed the links in robphy's OP, and assumed robphy took the photo! :redface:
 
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Redbelly98 said:
Sheesh, I completely missed the links in robphy's OP, and assumed robphy took the photo! :redface:

I was about to say
it wasn't me who took the photo... but you already discovered that. :smile:
 
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I also thought it was a simple cylindrical mirror, but this suggests otherwise:

(Andrew) Hicks, a mathematician at Drexel University, Philadelphia, used computer algorithms to generate the mirror's bizarre surface, which curves and bends in different directions.
 

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