Mismatch&power leakage with port of mixersattenuators solution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around issues related to power leakage in an RF transmitter design, specifically concerning the interaction between the local oscillator (LO) port, intermediate frequency (IF) port, and radio frequency (RF) port of a mixer. Participants explore potential solutions, including the use of attenuators and circuit design considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes experiencing power leakage from the LO port to both the IF and RF ports, expressing confusion about how to resolve this issue.
  • The participant notes that decreasing the LO power improves the sine wave observed on the oscilloscope, suggesting a relationship between LO power levels and signal quality.
  • Attenuators are mentioned as a potential solution, but the participant is unclear about their function and how they might address the problem of standing waves and signal integrity.
  • Another participant requests a schematic and additional information about the frequency bands involved in the transmitter design.
  • A comment is made regarding the correct representation of circuit symbols, specifically questioning the depiction of bandpass filters in the schematic provided.
  • The original poster confirms that the filters are indeed bandpass and seeks further assistance regarding the implementation of attenuators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the use of attenuators and the design of the circuit. There is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the power leakage issue, and multiple perspectives on the circuit design are presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the provided information, such as missing details about the circuit design and the specific characteristics of the components involved. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the effects of LO power levels on signal quality and the role of attenuators.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in RF transmitter design, particularly those facing challenges with power leakage and signal integrity in mixer circuits.

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Hi ! I am making an RF Transmitter and i have a problem with power leakage for LO port to IF port and RF port. I don't know what to do and i am little confused about how can i fix this.


Source(-10 or -20dBm) 10KHz --------->MIxer conv.loss=8db--------->RF port

and

L.O=70MHz and 7dbm

I put an oscilloscope to mixers input IF and i don't see a sin wave from my Source. I is a sine wave with a lot of phase noice and amplitude variations..when i decrease the L.O power the sine becomes better.:o

I have heard about attenuators but i cannot understand how they will solve the problem. They attenuate maybe the standing waves that maybe create ?Also and my signal right?
I don't understand...
 
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Can you post a schematic and some photos? What bands are you building this transmitter for?
 
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[/URL]of course...here...i have some problem with the crystal filter there..but basically this is my transmitter...i think i will need attenuators sure before the mixers...
 
just a little note on circuit symbols...

are they supposed to be band pass filters ??

if so you need to learn to draw them correctly, the centre sine wave shouldn't have a strike through it ;)
as you have shown them they let nothing through low mid or hi

Dave
 

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