Understanding a Resistive Power Divider for Audio Amplifiers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and understanding of a resistive power divider for connecting two audio amplifiers to a single audio source. Participants explore the theoretical and practical implications of using a resistive network in audio applications, particularly in relation to impedance matching and signal integrity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the necessity of a resistive power divider when connecting two amplifiers to one audio source, questioning the application of maximum power transfer principles.
  • Another participant suggests that if the source is a standard audio line level, the amplifiers could be connected in parallel without a resistive network, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the source's nature.
  • A participant provides a rough schematic and explains their intention to connect a balanced audio line to a low impedance microphone input, seeking clarity on the resistive network's role.
  • One contributor shares their experience with a similar setup using a delta connection instead of a wye configuration, discussing the implications of load impedance and suggesting adjustments to achieve desired impedance levels.
  • There is a focus on the need to determine the backward-looking impedance that the outputs should see, emphasizing the complexity of the resistive network with multiple unknowns and desired impedances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity and function of the resistive power divider. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the connection method and the implications of impedance matching.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific audio source and its characteristics, which may influence the appropriateness of using a resistive network. There are also unresolved questions regarding the optimal configuration and values of resistors in the proposed circuit.

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I have to hook up two audio amplifiers to one audio source. According to the instructions I've been given, I need to build a resistive power divider/splitter with 3 Z0/2 resistors in a wye configuration to connect them. I have to admit that I don't understand why or how the power splitter works. I've taken a few EE courses a while back including xmission lines and circuit analysis, but I'm not sure what approach to take to analyze the power splitter and its function. It seems that to use the wave approach would be wrong as audio wavelengths are so long as compared to RF. Using circuits I & II maximum power transfer approach, I don't see the point of adding the resistive network. I've found schematics on what I need to do. I just want to understand how it works. Hope some one can point me in the right direction.

Thanks
 
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I'm confused... You have one signal source and two amplifiers. If the source is audio-line-level (~1v) and the amplifiers have line level inputs, you can just run the inputs in parallel. But all the talk of resistor networks makes me think that you perhaps have the output of some other amp (which might go to a speaker) as your source? Or maybe a 70v PA distribution system? Can you sketch a schematic to make things clearer for my addled little mind?

I think you are correct in assuming that you don't need to use RF line matching techniques.
 
Here's a a rough diagram of what I'm trying to do. Already the balanced audio from a telephone E&M card is connected to the telephone equipment. I want to also connect the audio line to the Low Z mic input of a public address system amplifier. The resistive network(power divider) on the side is what I'm told to use as a bridge.

I understand the max power transfer theorem, but I don't see how that applies.

I'd really liketo brush up on my understanding, and apply what I've learned before, but I have no idea how to approach this.

Thanks a lot for the patience.
 

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i have done this before, for RG-58, and used a delta connection rather than a wye. But let me discuss your wye.

If both of your loads were 600 ohm, then the forward load impedance at the node would be 0.5( 1.5 Z0) = 0.75 Z0 (i.e., 900/2 = 450 ohms). Adding the series Z0/2 gives me 1.25 Z0 (i.e., 750 ohms) for the load as seen by the "E&M" source. This is too high. If the mic input impedance is very low, then the E&M sees only 525 ohms. If I put an additional series resistor =Z0 in the mic input, this would raise the load seen by E&M back up to 750 ohms.

What backward-looking impedance do you want the two output loads (telephone and low-Z mic) to see? What you have is a resistor wye circuit with 3 unknown resistors, and 3 desired input impedances (into the wye). Solve it.

Bob S
 

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