Modeling the Input Impedance of an Amplifier

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling the input impedance of a guitar amplifier circuit, focusing on the nature of input impedance, its representation in circuit models, and considerations for audio signals. Participants explore theoretical aspects and practical implications of input impedance in amplifier design.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the input impedance refers to the impedance between the signal input and ground, and whether it can be treated as a resistor.
  • Another participant confirms that the input circuit typically resembles a resistor for small signals.
  • A participant inquires about the relevance of capacitance and inductance for AC signals in this context.
  • Another participant suggests that for audio amplifiers, input impedance should not introduce significant series inductance or parallel capacitance, as this could distort audio signals.
  • One participant expresses concern about potential signal distortion, specifically mentioning a 1dB roll-off around 4KHz and seeks further information on this issue.
  • A later reply indicates that determining distortion characteristics requires testing or access to the actual schematic, as "black box" specifications are insufficient for detailed simulations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic nature of input impedance as resembling a resistor for small signals, but there is uncertainty regarding the implications of capacitance and inductance, as well as the potential for signal distortion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of distortion characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific circuit designs and the need for actual schematics for accurate modeling, as well as the potential variability in amplifier behavior based on different configurations.

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I'm trying to model a circuit. Part of this circuit is a guitar amplifier. I don't know what kind of circuitry is inside the guitar amp, it manufactures often list the input impedance in the product specifications.

When they say input impedance, do they mean the impedance between the signal input and the ground? Can I simply treat the input impedance as a resistor?
 
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dimensionless said:
When they say input impedance, do they mean the impedance between the signal input and the ground? Can I simply treat the input impedance as a resistor?
Yes. The input circuit for an input like that will generally look like a resistor for small signals.
 
Would it be correct to say that for AC signals there is negligible capacitance and negligible inductance?
 
For the audio amp you mention and for audio signals, then yes, the input impedance should not present much series inductance or parallel capacitance. Otherwise, it would distort the audio signals. Well, I guess that can be a desired thing sometimes with an electric guitar...:devil: :biggrin:
 
Generaly there shouldn't be signal distortion, but if there is a 1dB roll off around 4KHz I'd like to know about it.
 
dimensionless said:
Generaly there shouldn't be signal distortion, but if there is a 1dB roll off around 4KHz I'd like to know about it.
Well, you'll only be able to determine that by testing, or by getting the actual schematic for your simulation. You can't use "black box" specs for a detailed simulation.
 

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