Modules to Choose for Specializing in General Rel.

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The discussion revolves around selecting modules for specialization in General Relativity, black holes, and spacetime. Participants evaluate various courses related to mathematics and physics, considering their relevance to the field of General Relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest choosing modules such as Abstract Algebra 1, Advanced Complex Analysis 1, Differential Geometry, Classical Field Theory, Quantum Mechanics 1, and Statistical Physics 1 for foundational knowledge.
  • There is a consensus on the importance of Differential Geometry for General Relativity.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the necessity of Abstract Algebra, arguing it may not be directly useful for someone focused on General Relativity.
  • Others propose that while Abstract Algebra has its beauty and applications, it may not be essential for the OP's specific interests in General Relativity.
  • Numerical simulations and algorithms are mentioned as potentially beneficial for programming and computational aspects related to physics.
  • One participant notes that General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics do not overlap significantly, emphasizing the distinct mathematical foundations required for each field.
  • Statistical Physics is highlighted as relevant for quantum physics, but not necessarily for General Relativity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of Differential Geometry for General Relativity, but there is disagreement regarding the relevance of Abstract Algebra. Some believe it is not necessary, while others advocate for its study due to its broader applications.

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The discussion reflects varying opinions on the utility of certain mathematical courses in relation to General Relativity, with some participants emphasizing the need for practical skills in programming and numerical methods.

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Hey, these are the modules I have to choose for next year, still subject to change, so the available modules might not be the same when the form has to be in, but whatever.

I want to specialise in things like General Rel, black holes, space time, etc...

I can choose 6 from the following:
Abstract Algebra 1
Lie Algebra
Advanced Complex Analysis 1
Differential Geom.
Harmonic Analysis
Classical Field Theory
Quantum Mechanics 1
Statistical Physics 1
Algorithms
Numerical Sumilations
Some Stat modules which are a no-no.

Then 6 from the following:
Abstract Algebra 2
Category Theory
Advanced Complex Analysis 2
Partial Differential Equations
Modular Forms
Classical Electrodynamics
Quantum Mechanics 2
Statistical Physics 2
Algorithms
Information Theory
More computing/stats stuff.


General Rel. isn't on the list since it's a 4th year only module.
Thanks in advance!
 
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From the courses you gave I would say:

Abstract Algebra 1
Advanced Complex Analysis 1
Differential Geom.
Classical Field Theory
Quantum Mechanics 1
Statistical Physics 1

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Abstract Algebra 2
Advanced Complex Analysis 2
Partial Differential Equations
Classical Electrodynamics
Quantum Mechanics 2
Statistical Physics 2
 
redrum419_7 said:
From the courses you gave I would say:

Abstract Algebra 1
Advanced Complex Analysis 1
Differential Geom.
Classical Field Theory
Quantum Mechanics 1
Statistical Physics 1

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Abstract Algebra 2
Advanced Complex Analysis 2
Partial Differential Equations
Classical Electrodynamics
Quantum Mechanics 2
Statistical Physics 2

I agree with the above, except with the "abstract algebra 1 and 2". You will rarely need abstract algebra, and even if you do, it just uses the very basic concepts which you can easily self-study in 2 days.

Things that look good are "Lie algebras", but this depends on the lecturer. One can do it purely theoretical, or also from a physics point of view.

Things like Numerical simulations and algorithms can be quite useful if you want to do some programming later on (which is quite likely).
 
micromass said:
I agree with the above, except with the "abstract algebra 1 and 2".

An algebraist who doesn't want people to learn algebra..? :confused:
 
R.P.F. said:
An algebraist who doesn't want people to learn algebra..? :confused:


I'm not an algebrist :-p

But I'm here to try to be helpful to the OP, not to push my own interests on other people. If I would say that abstract algebra were useful to him then I would have been dishonest and unhelpful.

That said, there are many reasons to study abstract algebra: it's an immensely beautiful field of study with many exciting applications. But if the OP is only interested in GR, black holes and space time, then he will find algebra useless, that's just the way it is. I'm not going to lie to other people :biggrin:
 
micromass said:
But I'm here to try to be helpful to the OP, not to push my own interests on other people. If I would say that abstract algebra were useful to him then I would have been dishonest and unhelpful.
Such a nice guy. :approve:

micromass said:
That said, there are many reasons to study abstract algebra: it's an immensely beautiful field of study with many exciting applications.

That being said, it never hurts to learn some algebra. :biggrin:
 
For general relativity you don't really need quantum mechanics.
These fields do not overlap all that much.
They mostly have mathematics in common, such as abstract linear algebra and complex analysis.

For general relativity you need differential geometry.

For quantum physics you need statistical physics.

To do something meaningful in either one you're looking at pretty complex calculations.
It wouldn't hurt to know something about numerical methods to support that.
 

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