Moment of inertia for rectangular plate

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a rectangular plate with dimensions a x b, specifically focusing on methods that do not involve integrals. Participants explore the application of Steiner's theorem and the concept of dividing the plate into slices to facilitate the calculation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in calculating the moment of inertia for a rectangular plate without using integrals, mentioning the known moment of inertia for a thin rod.
  • Another participant suggests considering the plate as composed of several parallel slices to aid in the calculation.
  • A participant describes a method of calculating the moment of inertia by treating the plate as 'n' parallel slices, deriving the moment of inertia along the x and y axes, and combining them for the z axis without using integrals.
  • One participant challenges the previous calculation, stating that the moment of inertia for each slice must account for the distance from the axis using Steiner's theorem, indicating that the initial approach may overlook this aspect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculation method, particularly regarding the application of Steiner's theorem and the treatment of the slices. There is no consensus on the correct approach, as one participant identifies a potential mistake in the earlier reasoning.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the challenge of calculating the moment of inertia without integrals and the reliance on assumptions about the distribution of mass and the application of Steiner's theorem. The exact definitions and interpretations of the axes and distances are not fully resolved.

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Hi!
I've got a problem with this:
Count moment of inertia for rectangular plate a x b, if you know that moment of inertia of thin rod is \frac{1}{12}ml^2. Do not use integrals!, others mathematical functions required (I can proof this moment by integrals, but this is not issue). I know that I have to use Steiner theory, but how? No integrals? :(
Please help.
 
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Consider the plate as made of several parallel slices.
 
Ok, I know that, but the problem is: how can I count it without integrals? I must sum up all the slices' distance from axis, but how am I supposed to do it without integrals?
 
let us consider a rectangular plate to be a x b dimensions of total mass m

let x-axis be along the length direction and y be along width direction and origin be at the center of plate.
consider it to have 'n' parallel slices (n being very large number) along x direction so that each slice a like a rod of mass m/n and length 'a'
Moment of inertia of each rod along x axis, I = m(a^2)/(12n)
Moment of inertia of plate along x aixs =Ix = n I = m(a^2)/(12)
( this is because u have n slices)
similary if u repeat above exercise along y direction
Moment of inertia of plate along y aixs = Iy = m(b^2)/(12)

Moment of inertia of plate along z aixs = Iz = Ix + Iy
= m(a^2)/(12) + m(b^2)/(12)
= m( a^2 + b^2)/12

note : we haven't used any integrals..its just addition
 
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There is one mistake, I think.
One slice has of course I = m(a^2)/(12n) but not by this axis! the axis is in the centre of plate and every slice has I = m(a^2)/(12n) + \frac{m}{n} * r^2 from Steiner theory when r ist distance from axis.
 

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