Moment of Inertia of a Changing System

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia of a merry-go-round after a person with a mass of 29.5 kg grabs onto it, causing a change in angular velocity from 45.0 rpm to 19.0 rpm. The conservation of angular momentum is applied, leading to the equation I(initial) * ω(initial) = I(final) * ω(final). The inertia of the person is calculated using the formula MR^2, resulting in 85.255 kgm^2. However, the user encounters confusion over the final inertia calculation, initially arriving at 60.1094 kgm^2, but is corrected regarding a miscalculation involving the person's inertia. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using consistent units and careful calculations in physics problems.
jcd2012
Messages
5
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A person grabs on to an already spinning merry-go-round. The person is initially at rest and has a mass of 29.5 kg. They grab and cling to a bar that is 1.70 m from the center of the merry-go-round, causing the angular velocity of the merry-go-round to abruptly drop from 45.0 rpm to 19.0 rpm. What is the moment of inertia of the merry-go-round with respect to its central axis?

Homework Equations



Angular Momentum = I * ω

Momentum is conserved, so L(initial) = L(final), and so, I(initial) * ω(initial) = I(final) * ω(final)

Inertia = MR^2


The Attempt at a Solution



Inertia of the system changes when the person grabs on. So I(final) = I(merry) + I(person)

The inertia of the person is given by MR^2 = 29.5 kg * 1.7^2 = 85.255.

Using the conservation of momentum, here is what I put together:

L(final) = L(person, final) + L(mgr, final) = I(merry) * ω(final) + I(person) * ω(final)
L(final) = I(merry) * 19.0rpm + (82.255) * (19.0)

Solved for L to get L = 60.1094. If L is conserved then that should be the inertia of the merry-go-round. So I solved 60.1094 = I * 45.0rpm for I, which came out to be I = 1.33576. kgm^2. I am not sure where I could have gone wrong with this.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
jcd2012 said:
Using the conservation of momentum, here is what I put together:

L(final) = L(person, final) + L(mgr, final) = I(merry) * ω(final) + I(person) * ω(final)
L(final) = I(merry) * 19.0rpm + (82.255) * (19.0)

Solved for L to get L = 60.1094.

Hello, jcd2012. Can you show how you solved for L?
 
TSny said:
Hello, jcd2012. Can you show how you solved for L?

Forgot that . Here:

If L is conserved, then L(initial) = L(final), so L(final) = I(merry) * ω(initial).
So

I(merry) * ω(initial) = I(merry) * ω(final) + I(person) * ω(final). Solving for I(merry), shortened to I:

I * 45rpm = I * 19.0 + 82.255 * 19.0

45I = 19I + 1562.845
27I = 1562.845
I = 60.1094
 
That looks good.
 
TSny said:
That looks good.

It says it is not the right answer though. That is why I am confused.
 
Oh, it looks like you used 82.255 instead of 85.255 when doing the calculation.

Also, note that rpm is not the SI unit for angular velocity. However, in this case it's ok to use rpm since each term in the angular momentum conservation equation has a factor of ω and the conversion factor from rpm to rad/s will cancel out. But be careful in other problems where you might need to convert to rad/s.
 
Thread 'Collision of a bullet on a rod-string system: query'
In this question, I have a question. I am NOT trying to solve it, but it is just a conceptual question. Consider the point on the rod, which connects the string and the rod. My question: just before and after the collision, is ANGULAR momentum CONSERVED about this point? Lets call the point which connects the string and rod as P. Why am I asking this? : it is clear from the scenario that the point of concern, which connects the string and the rod, moves in a circular path due to the string...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanged mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top