Moment of inertia of a double physical pendulum

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for a double physical pendulum, specifically addressing the interdependence of the two rods. The kinetic energy contributions from both the center of mass motion and rotation about the center of mass are essential for solving the equations of motion. The moderator emphasizes that the kinetic energy cannot be simplified to a form that neglects the motion of the second rod when the first rod moves. Understanding the relationship between the angles of the rods is crucial for accurate modeling.

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Homework Statement
My task is to solve the equation of motion for a double "physical" pendulum!
Relevant Equations
L=T-V
$\tau=Fr=I\alpha
I am having trouble to find the moment of inertia of the second rod!
Is it related to the first rod??
At the beginning I thought It's not!
But when took those as constant,the equation had become way much simpler and there is nothing about chaos!
My approach is given below
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Use the fact that the kinetic energy of either rod is the sum of two contributions:

(1) the kinetic energy due to the motion of the center of mass of the rod: ##\frac {1}{2} M V_{cm}^2 ##

(2) the kinetic energy due to rotation about the center of mass: ##\frac{1}{2} I_{cm} \omega^2##
 
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AF Fardin said:
Homework Statement:: My task is to solve the equation of motion for a double "physical" pendulum!
Relevant Equations:: L=T-V
$\tau=Fr=I\alpha

My approach is given below
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Moderator's note: Thread moved to advanced physics homework help.
 
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The big problem here is the assumption that
$$
T = \frac 12 (I_1\dot\theta_1^2 + I_2\dot\theta_2^2)
$$
The kinetic energy cannot be written on this form. Note that the second rod will also move when ##\theta_1## changes.

Note: The angles are the angles each rod make with the vertical. This does not mean that the motion of rod 2 is independent of ##\theta_1##.
I made an exam problem with different coordinates for a double pendulum… that really threw some people off …
 
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