Moment of Inertia of a Rectangle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia of a rectangle, particularly when the axis of rotation is not at the center. Participants explore how to adjust the integral parameters for different rotation points, such as a corner or the bottom edge of the rectangle.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral for the moment of inertia when the center of the rectangle is the axis of rotation, noting the specific limits for the integrals.
  • Another participant corrects the terminology used by the first, emphasizing that the limits of integration should not be referred to as parameters and suggesting that the integrand needs to be adjusted instead.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how to compute the moment of inertia when the axis of rotation is at the bottom of the rectangle, expressing uncertainty about the integration process.
  • There is a suggestion that specifying the axis of rotation rather than just the point could help clarify the discussion.
  • One participant proposes that it may be simpler to adjust the limits of integration rather than the integrand, indicating that both methods are valid depending on the chosen axis of rotation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to adjust the integrals for different axes of rotation, indicating multiple competing views on how to handle the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the integration process and the implications of changing the axis of rotation, highlighting the need for clarity in definitions and methods used.

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I have been trying to do the moment of inertia of a rectangle and I have it figured out when we have the center of the rectangle as the center of the rotation.
The equation is ∫∫ρ(x^2+y^2)dy dx where the first integral is from -b/2 to b/2 (if b is the height) and the second integral is -a/2 to a/2 (if a is the width).
I can't seem to figure out how to change the parameters of the integrals for if the rotation of the rectangle is at any other point, say a corner. Or what if it was on the bottom but still in the center of width, but the bottom of height. How do I adjust the integrals for these parameters?
 
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hi physicskid123! welcome to pf! :smile:
physicskid123 said:
I can't seem to figure out how to change the parameters of the integrals for if the rotation of the rectangle is at any other point …

i] they're limits not parameters

ii] your limits are the same, it's your integrand that needs changing ! :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
i] they're limits not parameters

ii] your limits are the same, it's your integrand that needs changing ! :wink:

Thanks, I'm new to the calculus lingo. So, for example, if the center of rotation is the bottom of the rectangle (its thin btw) so the center point would be (a/2,0) if the bottom left of the rectangle were the origin, how would I do the moment of inertia for this?

I'm still solving for every dm in area dA aka dy*dx but I don't know how to make the integral work.

Also I know that my original integral works for when the center of rotation is the center of the rectangle because it gives the formula 1/12*M(a^2+b^2)=I which is the correct moment of inertia.

Here is a link that got me thinking about this: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=12903
 
hi physicskid123! :smile:
physicskid123 said:
… if the center of rotation is the bottom of the rectangle (its thin btw) so the center point would be (a/2,0) if the bottom left of the rectangle were the origin, how would I do the moment of inertia for this?

your r has to be the distance from (a/2,0)

(or, generally, from (xo,yo))

your limits will depend on where your origin is …

you can choose your origin to be at the centre, a corner, or (a,b) itself, whichever you think is most convenient :wink:
 
It would also be useful to specify not the point, but the axis of rotation, to avoid any possible confusion.
 
tiny-tim said:
hi physicskid123! welcome to pf! :smile:


i] they're limits not parameters

ii] your limits are the same, it's your integrand that needs changing ! :wink:

I think it's simpler to keep the integrand and change the limits. Both methods are possible. For instance, the the axis passes by the corner, you can simply change the limits to (0, a) and (0, b).
 

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