Moments Question Homework: Varignon's Theorem & Finding Axis

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The discussion centers on applying Varignon's Theorem to solve a homework problem involving moments and axes of rotation. The user successfully calculated the moment using the equation tau = r x F, arriving at a value of -16000. The confusion arises in determining new points on the x and y axes where the moment is zero, with clarification provided that the x and y components of the force can indeed cancel each other out at specific points.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


tau = r x F

varignons theorem

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew the diagram and the moment arm method and the component of the force perpendicular to vector OA seemed hard to find, so I used varignons theorem.

tau = -abs(5000*5)+abs(6000*-4) = -16000 (which seems to be correct)

I don't understand the second part of the question however.
Is it asking me to find new points for the axis of rotation (one on the y-axis and one on the x axis) such that the moment about each point is zero? The answers suggest that I'm just finding the x and y intercepts. e.g. if I find some point on the y axis, won't the x component of the force always cause a clockwise rotation, and the y component won't cause any rotation because it is parallel; so how can the moment be zero?
 
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nothingsus said:
if I find some point on the y axis, won't the x component of the force always cause a clockwise rotation
There will be a point on the y-axis such that F has no moment about it. If you do it by breaking F into x and y components, each component will have a moment about the point, and the two will cancel.
 

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