How to Calculate Moment of a Couple Using Cross Products?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of a couple using cross products, specifically in the context of forces acting at an angle. Participants are exploring the relationships between the forces and their respective positions to determine the resultant moment.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of moments using the cross product of position vectors and forces. There is confusion regarding the angle of the forces and how to properly apply the cross product. Some participants question the interpretation of the moment about specific axes and the implications of their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the elimination of certain answer choices based on the direction of the moment. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution as multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints such as the need to find specific components of forces and positions, as well as the requirement to adhere to forum rules regarding posting new threads for unrelated problems.

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I am confused. It looks like the couple forces are at a angle pointing to the x axis.
So i did moment about a axis of that angle.

I found this angle/axis unit vector to be (-0.6i -0.8j)
Then i found the moment couple about the x and y-axis and the magnitude is 3663.

Multiplied it by the unit vector and found its magnitude as 3663. However the answer is not in the choice!
 

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We know the couple/moment/torque is r x F and the direction is ccw from the sketch thus you can eliminate e) and f). So you just need to find the x and y components of each r and F, take the cross products and sum them.
 
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Dr Dr news said:
We know the couple/moment/torque is r x F and the direction is ccw from the sketch thus you can eliminate e) and f). So you just need to find the x and y components of each r and F, take the cross products and sum them.
Quick question. I am working on another problem and it is killing me...

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I keep getting 5/2 and the answer should be e. 5/4m/

I found that Fr = -4F1
and Moment about the left point is -10F1

so M = F*d --> d = 5/2 or x=5/2
but it is not right??
 

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lc99 said:
So i did moment about a axis of that angle.
I do not know what that means. Please explain.
lc99 said:
Then i found the moment couple about the x and y-axis and the magnitude is 3663.
Can't tell where you went wrong without seeing the details.
Further Dr Dr news' post, you can choose what point you take along the line of action of each force as the point of application. You can do this in such a way that only one of the two components has a moment about the axis.
lc99 said:
Im working on another problem and it is killing me...
Please post a new thread - as per forum style.
 
Back to the original problem. Find r(A) = - 8 i + 8 j and F(A) = - 72 i + 96 j. Then do the same for r(B) and F(B). Take the cross products r x F for each of A and B and sum them.
 
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