Momentum (airplane landing, word problem)

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A 1.0 x 10^3 kg plane is attempting a forced landing on a stationary 2.0 x 10^3 kg barge, with a frictional force equal to one-quarter of the plane's weight. To determine the minimum length of the barge for a safe landing, the plane's initial velocity is 50 m/s, and calculations involve using Newton's laws and impulse-momentum principles. The initial calculations suggest a stopping distance of 127.5 m, but the correct answer is 340 m according to the answer key. The discussion emphasizes the need to analyze the plane and barge separately, considering their respective accelerations and forces. Understanding the correct application of friction force and relative motion is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement



A 1.0 x 10^3 kg plane is trying to make a forced landing on the deck of a 2.0 x 10^3 kg barge at rest on the surface of a calm sea. The only frictional force to consider is between the plane's wheels and the deck; this braking force is constant and is equal to one-quarter of the plane's weight. What must the minimum length of the barge be for the plane to stop safely on deck, if the plane touches down just at the rear end of the deck with a velocity of 5.0 x 10^1 m/s toward the front of the barge?

Homework Equations



F = ma
F x delta t = delta p
m1 x delta v1 = - m2 x delta v2

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to approach this problem but this is just a guess.

friction force = 250N (1000x0.25)

force = ma
= 1000kg x 9.8 m/s^2
= 9800N

impulse = mv
= 1000kg x 50m/s
= 50000 kg m/s

delta t = impulse / force
= 50000 / 9800
= 5.1s

mass1 x delta v1 = mass2 x delta v2

1000kg x 50m/s = 2000kg x (delta d / delta t)

[(1000kg x 50m/s) / 2000kg] x delta t = delta d

[(1000kg x 50m/s) / 2000kg] x 5.1s = delta d

127.5m = delta d ??

I think this is completely wrong and I don't know what to do with the friction force :confused:. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

PS: The answer is 3.4x10^2m according to the answer key.
 
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