More complex numbers, more trigs

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving complex numbers and trigonometric identities. The original poster is tasked with showing a relationship involving the magnitude of a complex number defined by angles \(\theta\) and \(\phi\), and finding the argument of that complex number.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the magnitude \(|z|\) and express confusion about simplifying the expression to match the required form. There are attempts to relate the argument of the complex number to known trigonometric identities, with some participants suggesting the use of the tangent function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress on the first part of the problem, while others are struggling with the second part regarding the argument of the complex number. There is a recognition of the need to simplify expressions further and explore trigonometric identities, with some guidance being shared among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of recalling specific trigonometric identities and formulas, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their ability to solve the problem. There is also mention of the problem's specificity, suggesting that the solution may not generalize easily to other contexts.

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Homework Statement



The angles [itex]\theta[/itex] and [itex]\phi[/itex] lie on the interval (-pi/2,pi,2) and

[itex]z=(cos\theta +cos\phi)+i(sin\theta +sin\phi)[/itex]

Show that |z|=2cos([itex]\frac{\theta - \phi}{2}[/itex]) and find arg(z)

Homework Equations


If z=x+iy

[tex]|z|=\sqrt{x^2 +y^2}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]|z|= \sqrt{(cos\theta +cos\phi)^2+(sin\theta +sin\phi)^2}[/tex]

[tex]=2+2cos(\theta - \phi)[/tex]

I don't know how to get rid of the additional two and how to make the angle halved.
 
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Solved the first part


2nd part giving trouble


arg(z)=tan-1{Im(z)/Re(z)}

[tex]tan^{-1}(\frac{sin\theta + sin\phi}{cos\theta + cos\phi})[/tex]

I think I'll need to simplify this further.

I tried multiplying by the conjugate of the denominator but that didn't lead anywhere feasible.
 
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(sin(a)+sin(b))/(cos(a)+cos(b))=tan((a+b)/2). I'm going to the wikipedia page of trig identities and fishing around. You might notice this is related to the third problem of your other post if you put phi=0.
 
Dick said:
(sin(a)+sin(b))/(cos(a)+cos(b))=tan((a+b)/2). I'm going to the wikipedia page of trig identities and fishing around. You might notice this is related to the third problem of your other post if you put phi=0.

oh my god! I completely forgot factor formula...seems that 1 month away from math has completely worked my brain in the wrong way... thank you.
 
I don't remember stuff like that either. I just figured that if the problem called for it then something like that must exist.
 
Dick said:
I don't remember stuff like that either. I just figured that if the problem called for it then something like that must exist.

Well I knew it had to be arctan of the tan of something, but I thought the something would have been just with theta and phi and not half angled. Was looking to make a tan(A+B) thing.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Well I knew it had to be arctan of the tan of something, but I thought the something would have been just with theta and phi and not half angled. Was looking to make a tan(A+B) thing.

See, they tricked you. Seriously, some trig identities are just tricks. It's hard to see them coming. Like that one. If the problem were even slightly different it wouldn't work. Very specific solution to a very specific problem. I think the other problems in your other set are more instructive.
 

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