Finite Dimensionality of Linear Map on V

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If a linear map on vector space V has both a finite-dimensional null space and range, then V must also be finite-dimensional. The discussion highlights the misconception that all vectors in V map to the range, as T(v) can equal zero while still being in the range. Participants emphasize the need for a basis for both the null space and the range, but clarify that V is not necessarily the direct sum of these spaces. The conversation reveals uncertainty about how to approach the proof without additional definitions or assumptions. Understanding the relationship between the dimensions of these spaces is crucial for establishing the finite dimensionality of V.
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Homework Statement
Prove that if there exists a linear map on V whose null space and range are both finite dimensional, then V is finite dimensional.

The attempt at a solution
I *think* the following is true: For all v in V, T(v) is in range(T), otherwise T(v) = 0 which implies v is in null (T).

Other than that, I know I can write a basis {v_1, ..., v_n} for null(T) and a basis {T(u_1), ..., T(u_m)} for range(T), where range(T) = {T(u) : u is in V}. But since this is a linear map {u_1, ..., u_m} should also be a basis for some U such that U is a subspace of V.

Does anyone know if these assumptions are heading in the right direction?
 
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*melinda* said:
Homework Statement
Prove that if there exists a linear map on V whose null space and range are both finite dimensional, then V is finite dimensional.

The attempt at a solution
I *think* the following is true: For all v in V, T(v) is in range(T), otherwise T(v) = 0 which implies v is in null (T).
No, that's not true. T(v)= 0 even when T(v) is in range(T) because 0 is in range(T) (range(T) is a subspace). For a simple example, let V= R2, T<x,y>= <x-y,x-y>. null(T) consists of all vectors of the form <x,x>. Range(T) is exactly null(T).

Other than that, I know I can write a basis {v_1, ..., v_n} for null(T) and a basis {T(u_1), ..., T(u_m)} for range(T), where range(T) = {T(u) : u is in V}. But since this is a linear map {u_1, ..., u_m} should also be a basis for some U such that U is a subspace of V.

Does anyone know if these assumptions are heading in the right direction?
You seem to be assuming that V is the direct sum of range(T) and null(T) and that's not true.
 
ok, but can I at least write a basis for null(T) and range(T)? I can't see how to prove this without defining something, because I know I can't prove this by only referring to the finite dimensions of null and range.
 
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