More wavelenght has an electromagnetic wave the minus frequency

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The discussion centers around the relationship between wavelength and frequency in electromagnetic waves, exploring definitions, measurements, and characteristics of waves. Participants inquire about experimental validation and the nature of electromagnetic waves.

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  • One participant questions how the relationship between wavelength and frequency can be proven experimentally.
  • Another participant states that the relationship is derived from definitions, specifically that wavelength times frequency equals speed.
  • Frequency is defined as cycles per second, while wavelength is described as the distance between successive peaks.
  • It is noted that if the velocity of electromagnetic waves is constant, an increase in wavelength results in a decrease in frequency, and vice versa.
  • A participant explains how to measure light wavelength using a calibrated dispersive element or a Fabry-Perot cavity.
  • Several participants inquire about the nature of electromagnetic waves, questioning why they oscillate rather than travel in a straight line and whether they are formed by electrons.
  • A clarification is provided that electromagnetic waves consist of photons, not electrons, and that they oscillate in two perpendicular fields as they propagate.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the nature of electromagnetic waves and their behavior, with some clarifications made but no consensus reached on all points raised.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and characteristics of frequency and wavelength, as well as the nature of electromagnetic waves, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts.

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Hi,
i read the more wavelength has an electromagnetic wave the minus frequency it has, but how is possible to prove that?
what experimenst were done?

Thanks!
 
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what exactly is the frequency of a wave?
 


Frequency = cycles per second (units, Hz = 1/s).
Wavelength = distance between successive peaks (units, m).

Then by definition, Velocity = Wavelength x Frequency.

If velocity is constant (as in the case with EM waves), then as wavelength increases, frequency decreases and vice-versa.

Claude.
 


scientifico said:
what exactly is the frequency of a wave?

Think of a wave in water. If there are many waves passing a certain point per second then the frequency is higher than if there are fewer waves passing that point. Wavelength is the distance between those waves. If you lower the wavelength, IE shortin it, then the frequency will increase because there are more waves. And vice versa. Amplitude is how high the waves peaks are. Look up wavelength and such on wikipedia.
 


ok, thanks!
how is possible measure so exactly the light wavelength?
 


The most common method is to shine the light on a properly calibrated dispersive element (such as a prism or grating) and measure the deflection of the beam. Commercial optical spectrum analysers (OSAs) use this principle. Alternatively, you can use a Fabry-Perot cavity and measure the transmission with respect to the reflector spacing. This method typically has higher resolution, but a lower (free) spectral range.

Claude.
 


is there a why that electromagnetic waves do "up and down" in vacuum istead of simply going straight?
electromagnetic waver are only formed by electron, right?

thanks!
 


is there a why that electromagnetic waves do "up and down" in vacuum istead of simply going straight?
electromagnetic waver are only formed by electron, right?

thanks!
 
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scientifico said:
is there a why that electromagnetic waves do "up and down" in vacuum istead of simply going straight?
electromagnetic waver are only formed by electron, right?

thanks!

Electromagnetic waves are Photons, not electrons. All light is an electromagnetic wave. As is all x-rays, gamma rays, microwaves, radio waves, infrared waves, ETC. The only difference in any of them is the frequency.

And you are misunderstanding how an EM wave works. It doesn't MOVE up and down, it oscillates up and down in one field, and side to side in the other field as it propegates in a direction. The overall MOVEMENT of the wave/photon is straight. Do not think of it as a particle that moves up and down in a wavelike manner as it propegates through space.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation for more info.
 

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