Most efficient wire gauge for induction coils

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The discussion focuses on determining the optimal wire gauge and loop diameter for induction coils to maximize current while managing resistance. Thin wire allows for more loops but increases internal resistance, complicating efficiency. Users suggest that experimentation is crucial, as the ideal gauge may vary based on specific setups, with recommendations for gauges like AWG 24 to 30. The importance of balancing wire thickness and the number of turns is emphasized, as well as the need to avoid excessive spark output to prevent failure. Overall, practical experience and careful consideration of wire properties are essential for effective coil design.
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I am trying to find out which combination of wire loop diameter and thickness produces the most current. The problem with thin wire is obviously that it has a lot of internal resistance, but it is easier to wind in more loops. Does anyone know for a fact if a certain gauge/thickness is the best, or does it severely depend on the experiment's setup?
 
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Thanks for the response. I'm not sure about that calculator - I'll admit that I don't know a lot about this subject, and permeability especially. I know that wikipedia has a table of resistance per unit length for copper wire. I guess I'm just not sure how I would mathematically find which gauge is best, except through experimentation (and I don't own every gauge).

I'm sure that using wire that is .1 m thick wouldn't be very efficient, because few turns could get in. Other the other side, something that is .0000000001 m thick would be so thin that the resistance would probably be terrible. From anyone's experience, would it be better to use something like AWG 24, or 28, or 30, or 40 etc.?
 
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