Mounting Arm Torque for Short Throw Projectors on Different Walls

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of torque affecting the mounting plate screws of a short throw projector installed on various wall materials, particularly plasterboard. Participants explore the implications of load distribution and the structural integrity of the mounting setup under different conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how to calculate the total torque affecting the mounting plate screws, specifically for plasterboard walls where screws have a limited load capacity of 0.15 kN each.
  • Another participant calculates the torque based on the load and distances involved, suggesting a total torque of 39 Nm with a resultant pulling force of 200 N on the top row screws, raising concerns about the suitability for plasterboard.
  • A different participant clarifies that the 150 N load per screw refers to a pull/tension force and mentions that vertical forces can reach up to 250 N, confirming the calculations of the previous participant.
  • Some participants express light-hearted concerns about the stability of the mounting arm under potential stress from people or animals, particularly in a tech exhibition setting.
  • One participant warns about the risks of mounting screws not being anchored into wood studs behind plasterboard, emphasizing the importance of using appropriate anchor screws.
  • Another participant shares personal experience, noting that while screws can hold the rated load if perfectly installed, real-world conditions may lead to occasional failures, advocating for deeper anchoring into wood studs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of concern regarding the mounting setup's safety and stability, particularly in relation to the wall material and screw anchoring methods. There is no consensus on the best approach to ensure secure installation, highlighting differing opinions on the adequacy of plasterboard for supporting the projector's weight.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of proper installation techniques and the potential variability in real-world conditions affecting screw performance. There is an acknowledgment of the need for deeper anchoring into wood studs for enhanced safety, but no definitive guidelines are established.

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Hi there,

I'm going to install same kind of short throw projector in multiple locations, with different wall materials. Projector has integrated wall mount arm (see picture).

- How to calculate total torque affecting mounting plate top row screws?
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Some locations have plasterboard walls. Board itself will handle this load, but mounting screws can take only 0.15kN / each for plasterboard.
 

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Hello SaiQmon, ##\qquad## :welcome: ##\qquad## !

Load per screw 150 N probably means in the vertical direction ? so with 8 kg no problem expected in the vertical direction. But:

As you may know, torque = force ##\times## perpendicular distance, so the loads will add up to a torque of
## (2.5 * 0.32 + 5 * 0.665 ) * 9.81 = 39 ## Nm wrt the wall.

The mounting screws will have to counteract this, and if we pick the lower row as axis of rotation, that means a pulling force on the top row of ##39/0.2 = 200 ## N or 67 N on each of the three screws. Problematic for the plasterboard ? It at least deserves some attention.
 
BvU said:
Hello SaiQmon, ##\qquad## :welcome: ##\qquad## !

Load per screw 150 N probably means in the vertical direction ?

150 N is actually pull / tension force ("Sormat OLA" board anchor + Gypsum board standard, thickness 12,5 mm), vertical forces up to 250 N.

Thanks for this, it confirmed my calculations.
 
Okido. Don't go and sit on such an arm :wink: !
Not worried about cats or kids jumping on them ?
 
BvU said:
Okido. Don't go and sit on such an arm :wink: !
Not worried about cats or kids jumping on them ?

Not really, these are going to be at Tech exhibitions, most likely no cats or kids involved - I'm more considered about drunken engineers :biggrin:
 
SaiQmon said:
Some locations have plasterboard walls. Board itself will handle this load, but mounting screws can take only 0.15kN / each for plasterboard.
Be careful. Unless the screws go into the wood studs behind the plasterboard, this is risky. Are you using anchor screws like this?

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I have put screws into plasterboard. A particular screw, perfectly installed in exactly the correct size hole, may hold the rated 150 N if the load is perfectly applied. In the real world, expect an occasional failure. I would want to see screws at least 25 mm into a wood stud, or the anchor shown by @anorlunda. That goes double if you have drunken engineers in the area.
 
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