What are the underlying structures of multiple primal entities?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of primal entity types and how they may have underlying structures indicating more primitive entities. It is also suggested that there must be a single most primitive entity that composes the entire universe. The conversation also touches on the unification of fundamental forces and the potential for a technical discussion on fundamental particles.
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If there exists more than one primal entity type, must not then those entities have underlying structure indicating more primitive entities, and does this not lead us to the logical conclusion that there must be a single most primitive entity which composes all that is the universe?
 
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What is a 'primal entity type'?
 
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an atom is an entity, at one time it was considered to be the smallest division of matter, but of course via the raisin cookie, Neils Bohr, and the standard model, more primitive entities were proposed to exist. There are multiple quarks in the standard model... if 2 quarks differ in their properties, mustn't they have underlying structure?
 
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Well, those primary entities would be the four fundamental forces, from which the entire universe - including all matter - sprung.
We know that, at sufficiently high energy, three of those forces were unified, and we're working on the fourth.
 
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If there exists more than one primal entity type, must not then those entities have underlying structure indicating more primitive entities, and does this not lead us to the logical conclusion that there must be a single most primitive entity which composes all that is the universe?
This is a bit philosophical, which we don't allow at PF. If you would like to start a technical discussion (at the B=Basic level) about fundamental particles, please read the following links and also do some Google searching for mainstream technical articles about fundamental particles and forces (the reference links at the end of the Wikipedia articles are also a good place to start). Then start a new thread in the technical Physics forums with links to your reading and ask the specific questions that you have about that reading. That would be a good thread start at the B level.

This thread in the General Discussion forum is now closed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_particle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model
 
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1. What are multiple primal entities?

Multiple primal entities refer to the concept of there being more than one fundamental or original form or source of existence in the universe. These entities are believed to have existed before the creation of the world and are seen as the foundation for all other beings and phenomena.

2. How are multiple primal entities different from deities?

While deities are often associated with specific religions and worshipped as gods, multiple primal entities are seen as more abstract and universal forces that exist outside of any particular belief system. They are also not necessarily worshipped or given human-like attributes.

3. Do scientists believe in multiple primal entities?

The belief in multiple primal entities is not a scientific theory or concept, but rather a philosophical or spiritual idea. Therefore, whether or not scientists believe in them would depend on their personal beliefs and values.

4. Are multiple primal entities considered to be living beings?

This is a topic of debate and interpretation. Some may see multiple primal entities as living beings with consciousness and agency, while others may view them as more abstract forces or energies. Ultimately, it is a matter of personal belief and perspective.

5. Can multiple primal entities be proven or disproven by science?

No, multiple primal entities are not a concept that can be scientifically proven or disproven. As they are more spiritual or philosophical in nature, they fall outside of the realm of scientific study and cannot be tested using the scientific method.

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