Multiplying matrices with unknowns

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The discussion revolves around the problem of multiplying matrices that contain unknowns, specifically focusing on determining the dimensions and columns of a 3x3 matrix A based on given equations. Participants explore methods for solving the matrix equations and express uncertainty about how to proceed with their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies the dimensions of matrix A as 3x3 but expresses uncertainty about determining its columns.
  • Another participant suggests a hint regarding the value of A(0,1,0) to assist in the problem-solving process.
  • A third participant attempts to multiply the 3x3 matrix by the given matrix but encounters difficulties in resolving the equations due to the presence of different variables.
  • One participant confirms the correctness of the initial matrix setup and recommends multiplying by the 3x3 matrix formed from the column vectors to simplify the problem.
  • A further hint is provided regarding the values of A(1,0,0) and A(0,0,1), encouraging participants to express one of the vectors in terms of the others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple approaches and hints provided, with some expressing confusion and others offering suggestions without resolving the uncertainties.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of how to proceed with the multiplication and solving of the matrix equations, indicating a reliance on the definitions of matrix operations and the relationships between the unknowns.

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|1 | |4| |0 | |5| |1| |6 |
A|-1 |= |5| ' A |-1|= |3| and A |1|= |8 |
|0 | |0| | 1| |5| |1| |11|

The first question is, determine the dimensions of A. So I can tell it is a 3x3
Then I'm asked to determine the columns of A, I'm not sure about how to to do this.
My attempt was to make A as |a(11) a(12) a(13)|
|a(21) a(22) a(23)|
|a(31) a(32) a(33)|

and multiply it by the first column and set it equal to what's given. The problem is that I will end up with too many unknowns. Can somebody give me a hint, thanks.
 
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hi polaris90! :smile:
polaris90 said:
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 |1  |   |4|       |0 |   |5|            |1|   |6 |
 A|-1 |= |5| '   A |-1|= |3|     and   A |1|= |8 |
 |0  |   |0|       | 1|   |5|            |1|   |11|

hint: what is A(0,1,0) ? :wink:
 
I'm stuck with this one. I tried multiplying the 3x3 matrix times the matrix given. So fo the first one I got.

|x1 x2 x2| |1| = |-4|
|y1 y2 y3| |-1|= |5|
|z1 z2 z3| |0| = |0|

x1 - x2 = 4
y1 -y2 = 5
z1 - z2 = 0 ==> z1 = z2

I'm not sure what to do after this. I cannot add them up because they have different letter.
 
The first matrix that you have written is correct. How about you multiply by the 3x3 matrix that is formed by putting the column vectors on the left side of the equal sign. Then it becomes a straight forward solving linear equations.
 
further hint:

what is A(1,0,0) for any 3x3 matrix A?

and A(0,1,0) ?

and A(0,0,1) ?

now try to make (0,1,0) out of the three vectors given in the question :wink:
 

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