Multivariable Optimization - Closest point on surface

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the closest point P(x,y,z) on the surface defined by the equation x²y²z=4 to a fixed point Q(0,0,0) within the first octant. The context is multivariable optimization.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenge of resolving critical points that involve variables. There are attempts to derive equations by taking partial derivatives and questions about how to handle the relationships between x and y.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on taking derivatives and suggested checking symmetry in the problem. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the approach to solving the equations derived from the partial derivatives.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about their understanding and approach, indicating a struggle with the complexity of the problem and the implications of variable dependencies.

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Homework Statement



Find the first-octant point P(x,y,z) on the surface closest to the given fixed point Q (0,0,0).
The surface x2y2z=4

Homework Equations



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is the distance along PQ.

EDIT:

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The Attempt at a Solution



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I get stuck here every time. I feel like I'm just selling myself short here, but I don't know how to resolve the situation for when the critical point has a variable in it.
 
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theWapiti said:

Homework Statement



Find the first-octant point P(x,y,z) on the surface closest to the given fixed point Q (0,0,0).
The surface x2y2z=4

Homework Equations



gif.latex?d%3D%5Csqrt%7Bx%5E2%2By%5E2%2B(%5Cfrac%7B4%7D%7Bx%5E2y%5E2%7D)%5E2%7D.gif
is the distance along PQ.

The Attempt at a Solution



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I get stuck here every time. I feel like I'm just selling myself short here, but I don't know how to resolve the situation for when the critical point has a variable in it.

Your derivative is incorrect. Try again, more slowly this time.

When you've done that, then take the partial with respect to y (this should be easy because the problem is symmetric, so you just need to swap the x and y variables in your partial with respect to x) and set that equal to 0 as well. You then have two equations in two unknowns.
 
Mentallic said:
Your derivative is incorrect. Try again, more slowly this time.

When you've done that, then take the partial with respect to y (this should be easy because the problem is symmetric, so you just need to swap the x and y variables in your partial with respect to x) and set that equal to 0 as well. You then have two equations in two unknowns.

I feel like I'm probably just making myself problems here, but I can't for the life of me get past this still.

I was minimizing for the distance squared, which gave the two partials. But how can I solve if I have y in terms of x and x in terms of y?!
 
Well I feel like a dummy. Got it now, obviously. Sometimes the problem is made so much more difficult in your own mind!
 

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