Naive question about the speed of light

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The discussion centers on the constancy of the speed of light and its implications for electromagnetic waves. It clarifies that the Michelson-Morley experiment provided empirical evidence supporting the idea that light's speed is constant across reference frames, while Einstein's thought experiment illustrates potential contradictions if this were not true. The conversation emphasizes that if one could exceed the speed of light, electromagnetic waves would disappear, leading to practical impossibilities like not seeing light sources or receiving radio signals while in motion. This reinforces the conclusion that light travels at speed c in all frames of reference. The necessity of real experiments, like the Michelson-Morley experiment, is highlighted to validate theoretical concepts in physics.
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I thought that the idea that the speed of light is a constant in every reference frame came from the Michelson-Morely experiment. But a friend of mine was saying that Einstein supposed that if one could catch up to a light beam then it would no longer be moving and would then not be an electromagnetic wave. This would violate Maxwell's equations. Wouldn't this thought experiment suggest that the speed of light is constant?
 
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The point is that according to Maxwell's equations, if you could move at a different speed than c relative to a light beam(as measured by you), then for you, the electromagnetic wave that the light consists of would vanish.

The practical result of this would be that unless you were perfectly at rest with respect to a light source, you wouldn't be able to see it, car radios wouldn't pick up any stations while driving down the road, etc.

Since none of this happens, we conclude that electromagnetic waves are measured as moving at c in every reference frame.
 
Janus said:
The point is that according to Maxwell's equations, if you could move at a different speed than c relative to a light beam(as measured by you), then for you, the electromagnetic wave that the light consists of would vanish.

The practical result of this would be that unless you were perfectly at rest with respect to a light source, you wouldn't be able to see it, car radios wouldn't pick up any stations while driving down the road, etc.

Since none of this happens, we conclude that electromagnetic waves are measured as moving at c in every reference frame.

Ok so why do you need the Michelson Morely experiment?
 
Einstein's was a "gedanken experiment".
Physics requires real experiments.
 
Meir Achuz said:
Einstein's was a "gedanken experiment".
Physics requires real experiments.

thanks
 
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