Nasty Integral - Help with Trig Substitution

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The discussion centers around solving the integral \(\int_{-p}^{p} \frac{2p}{(1+v^2)\sqrt{p^2 + v^2 +1 }} dv\) using trigonometric substitution. The user, mrworf, attempts a substitution with \(v = \alpha \tan{\theta}\) and encounters difficulties with the term \((1 - \alpha \tan{\theta})\). Another participant clarifies the notation for \(\sec^2\theta\) and emphasizes the need to adjust the limits of integration to \(\tan^{-1}{\frac{p}{\alpha}}\) and \(\tan^{-1}{\frac{-p}{\alpha}}\) after the substitution. The integral remains complex, indicating the need for further exploration of trigonometric identities.

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Homework Statement


<br /> \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{2p}{(1+v^2)\sqrt{p^2 + v^2 +1 }} dv<br />


Homework Equations


1 + \tan{\theta}^2 = \sec{\theta}^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought the best way to go about this was to rename some constants.
Let \alpha^2 = 1 + p^2 so that we are left with:
<br /> \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{2p}{(1+v^2)\sqrt{\alpha^2+ v^2 }} dv<br />

i then make the variable substitution:
v = \alpha \tan{\theta}
dv = \alpha \sec{\theta}^2 d\theta

we now have:
<br /> 2p \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{1}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})\sqrt{\alpha^2(1+\tan^2{\theta} )}} \alpha \sec{\theta}^2 d\theta<br />

<br /> 2p \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{1}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})\alpha \sec{\theta}} \alpha \sec{\theta}^2 d\theta<br />

<br /> 2p \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{ \sec{\theta}}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})} d\theta<br />

at this point i hit a roadblock - the (1 - \alpha \tan{\theta} ) term seems to be an inextricable pain . other substitutions leave me with a similar problem.
If anyone can point me in the direction of a better trig substitution, or perhaps an identity then your help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks for reading
-mrworf
 
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mrworf said:

Homework Statement


\int_{-p}^{p} \frac{2p}{(1+v^2)\sqrt{p^2 + v^2 +1 }} dv

Homework Equations


1 + \tan{\theta}^2 = \sec{\theta}^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought the best way to go about this was to rename some constants.
Let \alpha^2 = 1 + p^2 so that we are left with:<br /> \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{2p}{(1+v^2)\sqrt{\alpha^2+ v^2 }} dv

i then make the variable substitution:
v = \alpha \tan{\theta}
dv = \alpha \sec{\theta}^2 d\theta

we now have:
2p \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{1}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})\sqrt{\alpha^2(1+\tan^2{\theta} )}} \alpha \sec{\theta}^2 d\theta

2p \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{1}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})\alpha \sec{\theta}} \alpha \sec{\theta}^2 d\theta

2p \int_{-p}^{p} \frac{ \sec{\theta}}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})} d\theta

at this point i hit a roadblock - the (1 - \alpha \tan{\theta} ) term seems to be an inextricable pain . other substitutions leave me with a similar problem.
If anyone can point me in the direction of a better trig substitution, or perhaps an identity then your help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks for reading
-mrworf
Hello mrworf. Welcome to PF !

First of all, \ \sec\theta^2\ means \ \sec(\theta^2)\,\ whereas \ \sec^2\theta\ means \ (\sec\theta)^2\ .\ I'm sure you want the latter for this problem.

Also, you need to change the limits of integration to reflect the substitution you did.
 
right on, with sammyS' suggestion, my equation becomes:

2 p \int_{\tan^{-1}{\frac{p}{\alpha}}}^{\tan^{-1}{\frac{-p}{\alpha}}} \bigg[ \frac{\sec{\theta}}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})} \bigg] d\theta
 
mrworf said:
right on, with sammyS' suggestion, my equation becomes:

\displaystyle 2 p \int_{\tan^{-1}{\frac{p}{\alpha}}}^{\tan^{-1}{\frac{-p}{\alpha}}} \bigg[ \frac{\sec{\theta}}{(1+\alpha^2 \tan^2{\theta})} \bigg] d\theta
I admit, it's still quite nasty !
 

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