Navier Stokes with chemical reaction

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The discussion revolves around incorporating chemical reactions into the Navier-Stokes equations, particularly focusing on the effects of heat-absorbing and heat-releasing reactions, such as combustion in jet engines. Participants explore the theoretical and practical implications of these interactions within fluid dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that to factor in chemical reactions, one must calculate the enthalpy of combustion and relate the heat released to the reaction rate, which is influenced by pressure and density of the air/fuel mixture.
  • Another participant mentions that the energy absorbed or released should be included in the heat source of the energy equation, with the continuity equation needing to account for the destruction of fuel and oxidizer.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the need for coupled equations, including conservation of mass for each species, conservation of momentum, and conservation of energy, all considering the chemical reactions involved.
  • One participant raises questions about the uniformity of kerosene as a mixture and whether it can be assigned an overall enthalpy of combustion.
  • Additional information is provided about kerosene's composition and properties, including its API gravity and carbon/hydrogen content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the Navier-Stokes equations in the context of combustion, leading to different interpretations and suggestions. There is no consensus on the best approach to incorporate chemical reactions into the equations, and multiple competing views remain on how to model these interactions effectively.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem, including the need for simplifications and the potential for various models to describe the interactions between fluid dynamics and chemical reactions. Some assumptions about uniformity and reaction rates remain unresolved.

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I wasn't sure whether to put this in Aerospace, but decided on physics in the end.

1.) How do you factor a chemical reaction into the solution for the Navier Stokes equations? More precisely, how can you include the affects of a heat absorbing (endothermic), or heat releasing (exothermic) chemical reaction going in within the flow field? The main thing I have in mind is combustion reactions that occur in jet engines, which are of course exothermic.

My thoughts were that you would first have to calculate the enthalpy of combustion of the fuel. Then the amount of heat being released is related to the reaction rate, which depends on pressure, and density of air/fuel at a given point (Maybe even "concentration" is a better word). But then in turn, the amount of heat being released would affect the thermal expansion of the gas, and hence the pressure at that point, which again would change the reaction rate and amount of heat being released...etc... until maybe it reaches some kind of equilibrium?

I was also thinking that you would have to use scalar fields of the form f(x,t) for reaction rate and temperature. Would this be accurate?

2.) A related question - kerosene is made up of a whole mixture of hydrocarbons, and other things.

i. where can I find a list of the exact chemical compostion of kerosene? (I believe it may come in different 'grades' or classes, like A1, A2.)

ii. can you consider kerosene to be a uniform mixture of its constituent compounds, and therefore asign to it an overall enthalpy of combustion, which is like an average for all the constituents?


I'm having a lot of trouble finding information on any of these things, so if anyone knows then please help me out. (Number 1 is the main concern, but though I might as well drop number 2 in there too :) )

Appreciate any help, regards, Joe
 
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Can't help with number 1 but Kerosene is also called No. 1 distillate. During the refining of crude oil the fraction obtained after gasoline is a light distillate called kerosene.

The API gravity for No. 1 oil is between 40 and 44. this is a low sulfur oil with about 135,000 btu's per gallon. The carbon and hydrogen content of 40 API gravity oil is

Specific gravity: .8251

% carbon: 85.93

% Hydrogen: 13.07

% noncombustibles: 1
 
For part 1, the energy absorbed/released would be applied in the heat source of the energy equation. The continuity equation would have to account for the destruction of the fuel and oxidizer and the creation of combustion species, and similar for the momentum equation.

I've not done NS for combustion systems however.
 
You will have many coupled N-S type equations:

1) the conservation of mass, for each species, including sources and sinks via the chemical reactions
2) the conservation of momentum equations for each species, including diffusion via concentration gradients in the body force term.
3) the conservation of energy equations for each species, taking into account the thermodynamics of all the chemical reactions.

There should be some simplifications out there- I worked with combustion folks in the past- but I forget the details.
 

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