Need a pair of forumlas to help me build a lifting platform

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and structural integrity of a lifting platform for Olympic weightlifting. Participants explore the relationship between beam spacing, board thickness, and the weight capacity of the platform, focusing on mathematical and physical principles relevant to construction and safety.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster seeks formulas to estimate how beam spacing affects the weight limit of a board and how board thickness relates to its strength.
  • Some participants suggest consulting a civil engineer for safety considerations, emphasizing the importance of stress and strain information for ordinary boards.
  • One participant mentions that the optimal placement of supports for maximum strength is at 1/3 and 2/3 of the board's length, rather than at the ends.
  • The original poster clarifies that the platform will be 4' x 4' and discusses the need to balance weight and portability, noting that estimates for the platform's weight were exceeding 70 lbs.
  • Another participant points out that structures are often limited by deflection rather than ultimate failure, suggesting a focus on how much a board bends under load.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of concerns regarding safety and structural integrity, with some advocating for professional input while others focus on mathematical relationships. There is no consensus on the specific formulas or methods to use for estimating strength based on beam spacing and board thickness.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding stress and strain in relation to ordinary materials, and there are unresolved questions about the specific mathematical relationships that govern the strength of boards under varying conditions.

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I'm planning on building a platform for Olympic weightlifting. I'm trying to minimize the weight, so I'd like to be able to properly estimate the sturdiness.

The first one is for a piece of wood sitting on beams of some sort. I know that as the beams move father and farther apart, the board can support less and less weight inbetween the beams.

What is the formula for estimating the strength difference for the board for different spacings of the beams? I.e. If the board has a limit of 10 lbs with the beams x inches apart, what is the weight limit with the beams y inches apart?The second question has to do with relating the strength to the thickness of a board. For a scenario like above, imagine that the distance of the beams are fixed, but the thickness of the board is not. What is the formula that let's me relate the strength to the thickness of an item?

Ex: If a board 1/2" thick can support 10 lbs, how much weight can a board 3/4" thick support?In case you can't tell, I'm hoping to have a board sitting on beams, and I'm trying to estimate how thick to make the board and how far apart to have the beams. The thinner/farther apart, the lighter it will be. Sorry to post this in two different places. I'm hoping that the reason I didn't get a response in the General Physics board is that it was the wrong place.
 
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Something this important to the safety of the particiapants should involve someone like a civil engineeer. I don't know if stress/strain information is available for ordinary boards as opposed to beams designed to handle a load.
 
Not sure what you are trying to achieve but your boards will be at their strongest if your two supports (underneath) are placed 1/3 and 2/3 of the way along the boards, not at the ends.
 
Jeff Reid said:
Something this important to the safety of the particiapants should involve someone like a civil engineeer. I don't know if stress/strain information is available for ordinary boards as opposed to beams designed to handle a load.

It will be used just by me at my home.

Studiot said:
Not sure what you are trying to achieve but your boards will be at their strongest if your two supports (underneath) are placed 1/3 and 2/3 of the way along the boards, not at the ends.

To give more details, my platform will be 4' x 4', and will be raised off the ground by pieces of wood. The number of pieces and spacing is one thing I was trying to decide on. The platform will be raised so that I can put layers of carpet next to either side of the platform to drop the weight on, reducing noise and damage to the concrete below.

My platform's estimates were getting above 70 lbs, which would be difficult to move around daily.

I think I have solved my problem and found how to get the weight down. However, I still am curious just from a mathematical/physics standpoint how to relate the strength of two similar objects of varying thickness and how adjusting the spacing effects the maximum load. I majored in math a few years ago, so you can understand my general curiosity for this.
 
Most structures are limited by excessive deflection not ultimate failure (breaking).
 

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