Need an ME for a rack and pinion design, what is needed from both of us

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The discussion revolves around the design requirements for a rack and pinion system intended for a mechanical application. Participants explore the specifications needed for a mechanical engineer (ME) to effectively design and prototype the system, including considerations for materials, load, and functionality.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the need for a ME to design a rack and pinion system with specific dimensions and materials, emphasizing the importance of providing specifications such as expected load and durability requirements.
  • Another participant suggests that a simple sketch of the system is necessary, including details about the maximum load and the connection of the gear to the driven component.
  • There is a proposal to focus on the design sketch and allow the ME to determine the necessity of simulations, rather than requesting them upfront.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that a 3D prototyper may be more appropriate at this stage, recommending the use of 3D printing services to create a prototype before involving an ME.
  • Several participants inquire about the operational nature of the device, questioning whether it is a one-time use mechanism or if it requires a reset, and how the spring mechanism functions in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on whether to engage a mechanical engineer immediately or to first create a prototype through 3D printing. There is also uncertainty regarding the operational mechanics of the device, particularly concerning the spring mechanism and its reset functionality.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach to take for the design process, and there are multiple competing views regarding the initial steps needed for the project.

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what should they do exactly for the job and what info do I need to provide?
I need a ME to design a rack and pinion system where both gears are plastic (type chosen through discussion) and rather small (5mm diameter for the pinion and 6mm length for the rack). The rack is moved by a spring loaded button press and the goal is to rotate an axle the pinion is attached to by X degrees.

I don't know what specs/requirements need to be provided to the ME for this job nor do I know what simulations I need to ask a ME to perform other than providing CAD drawings to verify the design will work (low likelyhood of physical damage from stress, durability to ensure long-lasting operation, amount of expected backlash, etc)
 
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The ME needs a simple sketch of the total system that shows the button, gear, rack, and what the gear is connected to. For example, the gear and rack can be shown as a cylinder and a rectangle. There needs to be some idea of what maximum load will be, or at least enough of a description of what the gear will be driving so that the ME can estimate a maximum load.

faxibe said:
(low likelyhood of physical damage from stress, durability to ensure long-lasting operation, amount of expected backlash, etc)
Focus on this, ask for simulations only if you want to pay extra for pretty pictures. Let the ME decide if simulations are needed.

How many will be built? If one or ten, parts may be machined or 3D printed. If 100,000, the parts may be injection molded.

How far do you want the ME to take the design? Do you want a proof of concept design, a paper design with dimensions and specified materials, or (for example) do you want the ME to work with an injection molder to build dies?
 
You don't need an ME yet. You need a 3D prototyper.

I know this works because I did it myself (see my prototypes below).

Go on to a 3D printing site such as Shapeways. Ask for a designer. I got 4 or 5 offers. Describe your device. Have them design it and pay them for it. Have it printed and ensure it works to your satisfaction. Then take it to an ME.

I had only sketchbook drawings to start, and now I have a working prototype, which I tweak as-needed.

I was surprisingly cheap. I paid about $50 at a time for files. This will be both cheaper and more effective (because you can iterate your design until it does exactly what you want)

I can help you navigate the process if you'd like.

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Is this a "one shot" device? I mean, press button, axle turns, that's it? Or is there a reset? How does the spring get cocked, and if it needs to be, how does it get re-cocked?
 
gmax137 said:
Is this a "one shot" device? I mean, press button, axle turns, that's it? Or is there a reset? How does the spring get cocked, and if it needs to be, how does it get re-cocked?
In short: rotating head is slaved to button:

Press button: head rotates 10 degrees CCW.
Release button: head rotates 10 degrees CW.
 

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