Bicycle Design (Individual Project)

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Hello everyone, I have not been here for a long time. Now I'm here for a DIY project.

Purpose: I want to design and manufacture my own road bike and ride it as soon as possible.
I want to design nearly all parts on a bike except for the wheels, chain, saddle, cables, maybe shafts and bolts and maybe gears (they would be very hard do design, I've not decided yet).

I've completed my final exams so I can focus on this. I've lots of questions therefore I'll update here frequently. You may ask "Why dont you buy one?" but it's both in my field of interest and I want to test my engineering skills.

First of all, I'm a mechanical engineering student and finished my 2nd year. I've a good practical and technical knowledge of bicycle but not computational technical knowledge. So; if you want to design your own, this thread will be a good guidance for you.

Let's begin:

Firstly: I want to introduce you the type of bicycle I want to design & manufacture.

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This is a road bike. Simply, no suspension, speed based design, low weight.

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Low weight : It should not weight more than 10 - 10.5 kg Generally road bikes are between 8-9 but I'm relatively flexible.
*Design: I love the design in the pic, the top bar should look horizontal, that makes it agressive.


*Safety: I want to be conservative as much as possible without sacrificing the lightness.

* Comfort:
That's a road bike, I'm not expecting too much comfort but it should be ergonomic.

* Material: Carbonfiber is very expensive and not suitable for my purpose, for lightness I will use aluminum on frame (T-6061 or something else, I'll research) and steel for the crank and other power unit parts.

*Life: Of course, fatigue analsis will show us the result but I want to ride this bike safely at least for 5 years.

* Performance: This is where I want to focus, low friction, low drag, low resistance. I should ride it at high speed as much as possible without getting tired. (Now, I've a mountain bike with both suspension and shock absorber, so the significant drop on weight will feel me satisfied in terms of performance.)



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(I didnt collect my question on a paper so I will update here when I remember hence, the order of the questions may be confusing but don't worry I will keep here neat and clean.)

Today's Questions:

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Actuator:
In such a design the most challenging part is the beginning because it's very hard to find where to start. So my first request will be an advise about that. I thought the dimensions may help:


I'm a tall guy, 187 cm ( 6 ft 2 in US system). So I can benefit from this table. That's ok.

I have some sketches (will share on weekend), but my main problem is that where should I being to design analysis. Because during the preliminary design, at some points I have to do static analysis (wihout computer just by hand) therefore I need some rough values which will guide me.

So, the question: In static analysis in which region should I begin to investigate?

My attempt: (Note: Of course this is very inaccurate, no bar and no shafts are rigid, the whole frame will deform together but I'm trying to get rough values about the stresses) (Correct me when I'm wrong)

I weight around 85 kg and added addiotional 15 kg for simplicity. So the wheel axles react in 500 N, I assumed the seat bar as rigid then the triangular part is subjected to bending.
But when I do some calculations I get weird bending which are very high compared to yield strength of T-6061 Aluminum due to assumptions.

I think my assumptions deviate somewhere if the calculations are correct. I need you help here and I leave it here for now. It's 5:12 am here :)

My first questions is above.

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Computer Analysis

This is a question to be asked in the future but I want to know from now on.

Question 2: What kind of analysis do I have to do to ensure that this bike is safe for me? (Von-mises, fatigue, deflection what else? ) (I have also questions about how I should do these analysis but will ask later)




 

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None of your images worked, except the photo of a bike. Use the UPLOAD button on the post editor to put images in your post.

What is your background and education about doing analysis and engineering?
 
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I started a bicycle thread at Linux Questions years ago. I just don't ride or have a passion for only motorcycles. My passion covers 2 wheels mostly because I like to have fun.

My Fixie.

My Schwiinn

My Fuji

Great thing about my area. Traffic is light and it is all flat. Good luck with your ideas. I have hands on shady tree experience myself.

Just my 2 cents. When incorporating your design. Keep human body mass in mind. My mind has a passion for 2 wheel transport. But my body is 6 foot 7 inches and I am a gorilla at 270 lbs. That does not stop me from riding bicycles how ever.

Here is my thread in case you need ideas.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/the-bicycle-thread-4175544046/
 
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None of your images worked, except the photo of a bike. Use the UPLOAD button on the post editor to put images in your post.

What is your background and education about doing analysis and engineering?
Can't you see the pics? I can upload here again because somehow I cant edit the original post.

As I said I'm mechanical engineer student. (sophomore). I have not been in such an experience before. In the context of lecture, I've completed Mechanics of Materials I & II. I'm familiar with CFD analysis (Autodesk CFD). I'm able to use Solidworks but planning to use it for modelling. For the static and fatigue analysis I will use ANSYS. (I'll learn to use).

A bicycle includes dynamic parts, I haven't taken Dynamics & Control yet but since I have lots of source (books etc.) I'll learn the part that is enough for this Project.

I uploaded here the pics. (In order)
 

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Can't you see the pics?
Yes thanks, I can see the pictures you posted in #3.

I'll let others comment on which analyses you need.
 
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Don't you think the rear 500 N should be bigger than the front 500 N?
 
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CWatters
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Not to mention the shocks caused by bumps in the road might be a lot higher than static loads?
 
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Don't you think the rear 500 N should be bigger than the front 500 N?
Yeah I forgot the weight distribution. Thanks!
 
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Not to mention the shocks caused by bumps in the road might be a lot higher than static loads?
Okay, that's good point thanks! How can I calculate or simulate that shocks to get data?
 
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Measuring the shocks is probably the best way but...

Some bikes have suspension so you could measure the force required to compress a typical sadle or fork spring. My bike had a spring sadle post and I don't think it's ever bottomed out so typical forces must be less than that required to compress the spring fully.
 
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Since you are using full triangles there should be no bending stress on any of the frame elements only tensile and compressive loads and stresses as shown in your analysis diagram; therefore the resulting stresses should be calculated used the following simple formula: σ = Force / x-sectional area of the material of the structural element.
 

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