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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a skier descending a slope inclined at 4.7 degrees with an initial speed of 2.7 m/s. The problem requires determining the distance the skier will slide before coming to rest, considering the coefficient of kinetic friction between the skis and snow is 0.11.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the skier, including gravitational force and friction. There are attempts to relate the initial velocity to the angle of the slope and considerations of how to account for friction. Some participants suggest drawing a free body diagram to clarify the forces involved.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the forces acting on the skier, while others express confusion about the relationships between these forces and the angle of the slope. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the role of the coefficient of friction in the context of the problem.

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One participant mentions a potential misunderstanding of the problem, indicating that further clarification may be necessary. There is also a reference to seeking additional help for another related problem.

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Homework Statement


A skier on a slope inclined at 4.7Degrees to the horizontal pushes on ski poles and starts down the slope. The initial speed is 2.7m/s. The coefficient of kinetic friction between skis and snow is 0.11. Determine how far the skier will slide before coming to rest.


Homework Equations


Mew(k) = F(k)/F(N)

v2^2 = v1^2 + 2a(d)

F=ma

I can't really think of others that would apply.


The Attempt at a Solution



At first I tried multiplying the initial velocity into the angle given to get :

2.7*(cos4.7) = 2.6909m/s

But I am not sure how to go from there, or even if I am on the right path here. I assume that acceleration of gravity will be 9.8m/s^2 so I could possibly get the Force through multiplying initial velocity into gravity :

(9.8)*(2.7(cos4.7)) = 26.37082 N

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Mocambo said:
I could possibly get the Force through multiplying initial velocity into gravity

Hi mocambo! Welcome to PF! :smile:

hmm … you're getting very confused.

Think slowly and logically.

There are two forces, not one - consider each separately.

Hint: What force is pulling the skier? How much is it?

What force is stopping the skier? How much is it?

Does either of them depend on the angle?
 
First, you should derate the velocity due to the friction. Draw a free body diagram and that should help you out.
 
What force is pulling the skier : Gravitational force : 9.8m/s^2 ?

What force is stopping the skier : Force of Friction : .11 Mew(k)

Does either of them depend on the angle: I am not sure unfortunately, possibly the force pulling the skier will depend on the angle most likely .
 
coefficient of friction

Mocambo said:
What force is stopping the skier : Force of Friction : .11 Mew(k)

(btw, if you type alt-m, it gives you "µ", instead of "Mew"!
Mew is for cats, but µ is for cool cats! :cool:)

No. µ is the coefficient of friction: that means you have to multiply it by something else. What is that?

Does either of them depend on the angle: I am not sure unfortunately, possibly the force pulling the skier will depend on the angle most likely .

Um … you need to go back to your teacher or your book and find out all about the relationship between forces and angles.
 
ok, well I just understood the question a little better and got the answer!

Thanks for all your help!
 

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