Need help getting formula for volume of any tree log.

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The discussion revolves around deriving a formula for calculating the volume of a tree log using integration techniques, specifically in the context of a calculus II assignment. Participants are examining the original poster's proposed integral and its components.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are analyzing the proposed formula and questioning its clarity and assumptions regarding the relationship between radius and distance along the log. Some are suggesting that the radius is a linear function of distance, while others are discussing the implications of this assumption on the volume calculation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the original formula and exploring its mathematical validity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of variables and the setup of the integral, but there is no explicit consensus on the final formulation.

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There is mention of a picture that is referenced but not included in the discussion, which may affect the clarity of the problem setup. The original poster's formula is noted to be somewhat vague, prompting further clarification and exploration of assumptions.

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For calc 2 we have to write a formula using integration that will find the volume of any tree log that is cut. Using the picture that is attacked I came up with this equation. The integral from 0 to h of pi*(((R-r/h)x+r))^2)dx. Any ideas about my formula or anything would be appreciated. Thanks

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If that formula is the radius at x then it looks correct, if a little vague.
 
Your equation, y= ((R-r)/h)x+ r, is vague because there is no "x" nor "y" in your picture. I presume you mean y to be the radius of the tree at distance x from the large end. If that is what is meant, yes, when x= 0, that is y= 0+ r= r and when x= h, y= R- r+ r= R. And you are assuming that the radius is a linear function of x.

Now, at a given x, a cross section will be a disk with radius h. That disk has area \pi y^2 and so a disk with thickness "dx" will have volume "area times thickness"= \pi y^2 dx= \pi ([(R-r)/r]x+ r)^2)dx.

The approximate volume would be a sum of such things, a "Rieman sum", and the limit, as the thickness goes to 0 will be the integral
\pi \int_{x=0}^h (((R-r)/r)x+ r)^2 dx= \pi \int_{x=0}^h \left[\left(\frac{R-r}{r}\right)^2x^2+ 2(R-r)x+ r^2\right] dx
 
alexf322 said:

Homework Statement



For calc 2 we have to write a formula using integration that will find the volume of any tree log that is cut. Using the picture that is attacked I came up with this equation. The integral from 0 to h of pi*(((R-r/h)x+r))^2)dx. Any ideas about my formula or anything would be appreciated. Thanks
Yes, it looks perfectly fine.
 

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