jrmichler said:
As long as you expect to just have a little fun, you should be OK. However, if you expect to actually make it work, you are out of luck. HHO is breaking water into hydrogen and oxygen, then combining those two gases back into water. Both steps are less than 100% efficient, so the useful energy out must be less than the energy in from the battery. In the real world, the useful energy out is much less than the energy in.
There is nothing new about HHO. It has been around since electricity, electrolysis, and internal combustion engines were invented. It has never worked, but the free energy people continue to claim (without evidence) benefits from it.
The calculation of how much gas can be electrolyzed from water given the energy stored in one or more batteries can be calculated from high school physics. The energy of combustion is high school chemistry. Both of those processes have losses. Conversion of the energy of combustion to thrust or lift has even larger losses.
If you want to convert battery energy into lift, putting the battery into a drone will be far more efficient than converting battery energy into gas, then gas back to water.
You can measure the efficiency of your electrolysis process by measuring the volume of gas produced, and comparing the amount that would be produced if the process was 100% efficient. That could be a fun little experiment.
Oh yeah totally mate, I just use HHO because that's the most available and cleanest combustion I can get my hands on at the moment. Would love to experiment with some dirtier fuels, but I don't trust my wallet to do that just quite yet. Plus some key advantages, like having an oxidizer at the ready and not having to worry about storing these gases is also fun. Some other fun stuff, like lighter-than-air crafts are also a fun idea. Well. Assuming they don't explode that is.
Speaking of explosions, having a relatively pure concentration of HHO gas would be provide at least a few known variables than trying to DIY some other fuels.
Would love to have a go with some other DIY fuels, like the ones listed below:
http://opengarages.org/index.php/DIY_fuel_production
But just stuck with HHO for the reasons above. Also, I'd love to become a better applicant to the propulsions laboratory at this college I'm heading to, so having a go at these things is definitely something I'd like to try.
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I know you probably meant a pure HHO engine on its own, but while we're here on this topic;
I've been a tad confused between the efficiencies brought by combining gas and HHO. So there are a few journal entries like:
https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/...egion=us-east-1&originCreation=20210528183453
Claim HHO and gas combinations would increase overall engine performance. And of course, some drawbacks as well. Really, pick your poison on these.
Of course, I think we both agree a purely HHO system would not be efficient. However, would you perhaps know if the addition of HHO and other gases would be "better" for combustion? I mean, there are some metrics on what constitutes "better," such as waste gas emissions and engine performance. But in terms of the combination of gases, would it be better?
Sorry in advance for the noob questions. Just trying to sort through all these random contradicting sites.
