Need help setting up multi potentiometers.

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The discussion revolves around the setup of multiple potentiometers for controlling the speed of a frequency drive connected to a 3-phase motor. Participants explore the implications of connecting additional pots in parallel and the effects of resistance values on the circuit's performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests connecting two additional remote-mounted pots in parallel with the existing 5k pot, using a switch to select which pot controls the speed.
  • Another participant mentions that the actual resistance of the pots may be important, depending on the input impedance of the circuit, and notes that without a circuit diagram, the effects of changing resistance values are uncertain.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for open circuit conditions during switching, which could damage the frequency drive.
  • A suggestion is made to use a make-before-break switch to mitigate the risk of open circuit conditions during switching.
  • Another participant proposes replacing the existing pot with a motorized pot to avoid issues with the controller detecting changes in control voltage.
  • It is suggested that placing a capacitor across the input could help maintain the voltage during switching, although using three 5k pots and switching only when powered off is also mentioned as a safer option.
  • A side note clarifies that the pot functions as an analog input on a digital drive, detailing its connections to the common terminal, programmable input, and 5V DC terminal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various concerns and suggestions regarding the setup, but there is no consensus on the best approach to take or the implications of different resistance values. Multiple competing views remain on how to safely implement the additional potentiometers.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding the input impedance of the circuit and the potential risks associated with switching configurations. There is uncertainty regarding the impact of different resistance values on the circuit's operation.

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Hello,
I have a small $450 frequency drive running a 1/4hp 3ph motor that I am not wanting to burn up. On this drive there is a 5k pot with 5 volts across it, that controls the frequency output/speed.

I wanting to connect two more remote mounted pots to control the speed with a switch to select which one is in control.

I was thinking of connecting the three pots in parallel with the center legs selectable via a
sp3t switch.

Is the actual resistance of the pots that important since all they are doing is acting as a voltage divider?

Do I need three 15k pots to maintain the initial 5k load of the original pot, or can I simply add 2 more 10k pots that I happen to have handy.

Any advice and thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
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With a multi pole rotary switch you could easily switch 2 or 3 wires to each pot, so the unused pots had no effect on the circuit.

Pots are not usually "close tolerance" design components, but without a circuit diagram of the controller you are just guessing what the effect of changing the value might be.
 
You need to know the input impedance of the circuit, because this is effectively across the lower part of the pot. It will affect the operation of the pot.

Also, the switching may be fast, but it isn't instantaneous, and damage may happen while the switching is happening.
For a few milliseconds, the input could be open circuited. Maybe it is OK to do this, but probably it isn't.

Maybe you could ring the manufacturer and talk to someone technical. This could be difficult if they are in China.
 
vk6kro said:
For a few milliseconds, the input could be open circuited. Maybe it is OK to do this, but probably it isn't.

You could use a make-before-break switch to get rid if that problem. But the speed controller might not take kindly to "instantaneous" changes in control voltage when you switch between controls.

Possibly a safer way would be to replace the existing 5K pot with a 5K motorized pot, and use the remote controls to drive it. That way the controller doesn't know you changed anything.
 
It would probably be OK to put a 10 uF capacitor across the input, after the switch, so that it would hold the previous voltage while switching happened.

To be absolutely safe, you can just use three 5K pots and only switch between them when the power was off.
 
Just a side note, this pot is acting as an anolog input on a digital drive. It is a user installed option. One leg of the pot is connected to the common terminal, the middle leg is connected to a programmable input and the last leg is connected to a 5V dc terminal.
Thanks for the replies.
 

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