Need to calculate current flowing through parallel resistors.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the current flowing through a specific resistor (R4) in a circuit with parallel resistors. Participants explore various methods to analyze the circuit, including the application of Ohm's Law, voltage dividers, and current dividers.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for clarification on the current through R4 and shares their confusion regarding the circuit diagram.
  • Another participant prompts for previous attempts at solving the problem and inquires about the participant's understanding of series and parallel resistor combinations.
  • Several participants discuss the application of Ohm's Law and the formula for total resistance in series and parallel configurations.
  • One participant suggests two methods to find the current through R4: combining all resistors into one resistance or using a current divider after calculating the series current.
  • Another participant points out the correct voltage source value in the diagram and requests to see the equations leading to the participant's calculations.
  • Participants discuss the identification of multiple sets of parallel resistors in the circuit and the need to calculate total resistance for each set.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the next steps after calculating voltages across certain resistors using the voltage divider equation.
  • A later reply challenges a participant's calculation of current through R4, suggesting that their method may have led to an incorrect result.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to approach the problem, but there are multiple competing views regarding the calculations and interpretations of the circuit, leading to some unresolved discrepancies in results.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of careful calculations when dealing with multiple sets of parallel resistors and the potential for slight variations in results based on different methods or assumptions used in calculations.

  • #31
Zryn said:
Much closer now :smile:.



Rt = (R3*R5*R6 / R3+R5+R6) = the total resistance of the resistors which are *not* the resistor in question which you are trying to find the current through ... Correct.

However, Rn = R4 = the resistor in question which you are trying to find the current through.

Therefore Rt + Rn = [ (R3*R5*R6 / R3+R5+R6) + R4 ] and not (R3*R4*R5*R6 / R3+R4+R5+R6).

so -->

(90*70*60 / 90 + 70 + 60)
-------------------------------
(90*70*60 / 90 + 70 + 60) + 80
 
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  • #32
My apologies, when I read what you said in post #29 I mistakenly thought I read something different to what was actually there, and I have since amended my post #30. Read it again and then comment, but you're on the correct path, just need to get the numbers right.

** An easy way of calculating the total resistance of two resistors in parallel is Rt = Ra*Rb / (Ra + Rb), however this shortcut does not work for any number other than two. When you wrote down (R3*R5*R6 / R3+R5+R6) I had momentarily forgotten that this method will not work for three resistors and advised you that it was correct, when it is not.

You could pair the resistors up progressively, so that Rt = R3||R5||R6 = (R3*R5)/(R3+R5)||R6 = [(R3*R5)/(R3+R5)]*R6 / [(R3*R5)/(R3+R5) + R6], but you can not say that Rt = R3*R5*R6 / R3+R5+R6.
 
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  • #33
Zryn said:
My apologies, when I read what you said in post #29 I mistakenly thought I read something different to what was actually there, and I have since amended my post #30. Read it again and then comment, but you're on the correct path, just need to get the numbers right.

hey wait, can't I just go 6.2 / 80? 0.078A

if we do 6.2/90 = 0.069A
6.2/80 = 0.078A
6.2/70 = 0.089A
6.2/60 = 0.103A

== 0.339A
 
  • #34
Yes you can, that is the correct answer and the discrepancy is only due to rounding errors.

The current divider that you were going to end up with is as follows:

Ir = Rt / (Rt + Rn) * I

Ir4 = (R3||R5||R6) / (R3||R5||R6 + R4) * I

Ir4 = [ 1 / (1/R3 + 1/R5 + 1/R6) ] / { [ 1 / (1/R3 + 1/R5 + 1/R6) ] + R4 } * I

Ir4 = [ 1 / (1/90 + 1/70 + 1/60) ] / { [ 1 / (1/90 + 1/70 + 1/60) ] + 80 } * 0.337

Ir4 = 23.77 / ( 23.77 + 80 ) * 0.337

Ir4 = 0.229 * 0.337

Ir4 = 0.077
 
  • #35
Zryn said:
Yes you can, that is the correct answer and the discrepancy is only due to rounding errors.

The current divider that you were going to end up with is as follows:

Ir = Rt / (Rt + Rn) * I

Ir4 = (R3||R5||R6) / (R3||R5||R6 + R4) * I

Ir4 = [ 1 / (1/R3 + 1/R5 + 1/R6) ] / { [ 1 / (1/R3 + 1/R5 + 1/R6) ] + R4 } * I

Ir4 = [ 1 / (1/90 + 1/70 + 1/60) ] / { [ 1 / (1/90 + 1/70 + 1/60) ] + 80 } * 0.337

Ir4 = 23.77 / ( 23.77 + 80 ) * 0.337

Ir4 = 0.229 * 0.337

Ir4 = 0.077

Aha! Awesome, I understand this so clearly now. When I realized what I was doing with the voltage it became so clear! Thanks a lot Zryn, so very very much!
 
  • #36
Zryn said:
Yes you can, that is the correct answer and the discrepancy is only due to rounding errors.

The current divider that you were going to end up with is as follows:

Ir = Rt / (Rt + Rn) * I

Ir4 = (R3||R5||R6) / (R3||R5||R6 + R4) * I

Ir4 = [ 1 / (1/R3 + 1/R5 + 1/R6) ] / { [ 1 / (1/R3 + 1/R5 + 1/R6) ] + R4 } * I

Ir4 = [ 1 / (1/90 + 1/70 + 1/60) ] / { [ 1 / (1/90 + 1/70 + 1/60) ] + 80 } * 0.337

Ir4 = 23.77 / ( 23.77 + 80 ) * 0.337

Ir4 = 0.229 * 0.337

Ir4 = 0.077

I have a quick question, how do you calculate Collector emitter resistance?
 
  • #37
It's best to start a new thread with any diagrams, equations and workings you have.
 

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